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I guess we have all been told that, at one time or another, we should be more " like " someone. a father, brother, uncle (other than Jesus) which is a good deal different than changing "for" someone with some dubious criteria. Men change for their wives and the reverse, in order to make their marriage work. Children change for their parents that they may continue to receive support in college , etc. Whether we change "for" ' or "to be like" someone that is to be admired and respected can be a very good thing and God affirming, and you would agree that there may be other criteria for change, but hardly superior to that of the image of Jesus Christ, but none-the-less often worthy. Very thought provoking... Liked your decor! I wouldn't change a thing... ...except maybe... ... .. milt
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Posted 11/15/2009 11:47am
Author: hiswitness
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there's only two instances we should be changing.. one, when Christ comes into our hearts and starts working on us(that's a fairly constant process...) and two
when you marry and you're adjusting to your spouse, and your spouse is adjusting to you. (in my humble opinion)
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Posted 11/15/2009 12:15pm
Author: blackrose65
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"Husbands love... . wives submit." There is surrender in there that implies change (fundamental in some cases). I was lost, but now I'm found IS the ultimate fundamenal change that is superimposed. I agree, milt
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Posted 11/16/2009 09:47am
Author: hiswitness
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(sorry for going off topic for a hot minute...) why do we forget this verse in the whole submission thing? Eph.5:21? this submission thing is MUTUAL! and ultimately we ALL submit to Christ!
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Posted 11/17/2009 08:38am
Author: blackrose65
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I read quite awhile back something that I think fits in here. The comment was, and we all know that this is true, that we become like whatever we look at. In other words, if we mostly watch monkeys, or a certain actor on TV, or if we mostly read about one individual then we have a tendency to become like them in some way. If we spend most of our time thinking about Jesus and how He acted then we will become more like Him.
I think the same thing is true of any special person in our lives. We like them because of who they are and part of who they are is shown in what they do and how they behave. If we like them enough to want to be around them then we WILL change even if we don't plan to. Somehow I think that this change is Biblical, though I cannot put my finger on it at this time. I don't think we are told to change, but that by looking at someone else we ARE changed.
Keep your eyes on Jesus my friends. You WILL be changed, and for the better I might add.
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Posted 11/15/2009 02:22pm
Author: lineman
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John I do so identify with the situation you describe. Even my parents had differing philosophies about this topic, so there I am trying to be the kid each of them wanted me to be...my first dichotomy. Then I got married...an entirely new set of people to try to please...and I still haven't figured out my core person. The entire time, I'm trying to visit with the Lord, and see what He wants me to do/be, and praise His name, He often would correct my route and shore up a weak area. But it has been in the past 18 months that I have really been close to Him and trying to get His real me out into an expression that is consistent with my verbal life. I owe CB and friends here great thanks for help I've received from their encouragement. Keep up your good work. Blessings, Possum
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Posted 11/15/2009 06:06pm
Author: possum
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Someone said, (I think it was me) We are not yet what we will become. The implication is that we are always trying to "be" what God intended. God uses people sometimes to make His point. We acknowlege their witness to us in changing both for them and for God. We can only come close to Hs mandate at the very best. We can often satisfy others desires for us, by being better than we are at the moment. We may be saying the same thing? milt
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Posted 11/16/2009 10:04am
Author: hiswitness
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Im reminded of the Romans 12 verse that says, do not be conformed to this world but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you may prove what the will of God is, that which is good and acceptable and perfect.
i agree with Lineman in that we are, essentially, what we "eat." the more time we spend with God and in His Word the more like His image we will become. we will be transformed, and in being transformed we will be able to prove His will, that which is good and acceptable and perfect. concerned about an area that might need to change? a person you want to be more like in order to please them? a husband or wife you are struggling to submit to?
Draw close to God. Be transformed, and then you will be able to discern His will.
The Bible is not a magic eight ball, though there are times I wish it were. But rather it is a guide, and if it is used to first and foremost draw closer to the character of God than we may not find ourselves with so many questions and minus so many answers! just a thought 
Blessings to all
Kristen
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Posted 12/04/2009 10:20am
Author: kmalbro
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