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Conversation With A Muslim

I was mowing my lawn last Saturday when I noticed a moving van unloading furniture into the house across the street from me. The house had sold recently and a new family was moving into the neighbourhood. After a while, I noticed that the family were Arabic, a young couple with two young children. Seeing that no one went over to greet and welcome them, I went into the house and made up a tray of cookies that I had baked that morning and took them over to my new neighbours with my own kids in tow. They were lovely, friendly people and their kids were adorable. We exchanged pleasantries and I learned that they had immigrated from Lebanon. They had been sponsored by family living 3 hours away in Halifax, the capital city of Nova Scotia. He had found a job working for a engineering company in our city and his wife will be studying nursing here. At the end of the conversation, I invited them over for dinner the following weekend.

Earlier this week, my children, who had become friends and playmates with the new neighbours came home and told me that their new friends' grandparents would be coming to visit.. That evening I went over again and told my new neighbour that he should bring his parents over for dinner as well. So, after church today, I spent the afternoon making a dinner suitable for Muslims, making sure that all the food was Halal. At 6, my new neighbours arrived and much to my surprise, the elderly gentleman who accompanied them exclaimed, "It is my friend who likes spicy food!" I took a double take when I recognized my friend from when I taught at the university in Halifax. It was Ahmed! The man who owned and ran an Arab restaurant and food stand in the city! We hugged and laughed. He clapped me on the back and said to his son, "Jamal, this is my friend that I told you about, the Chinese Christian who would come to our restaurant. He is the one who would get my spicy beef sausage from my hot dog stand for lunch! We had many good conversations about God." It had been over 10 years when I was teaching in one of the five universities in Halifax. Ahmed used to sell his special Halal hotdogs from his stand in the park across the street from where I worked. Over time, we had struck up a friendship and when I learned that he also operated an Arabic restaurant, I became a frequent customer spending many hours there eating his wonderful food and conversing with him late into the night, often till after closing.

The evening went splendidly as we talked and reminisced over old times and getting to know my new neighbours. They had emigrated to escape the violence and constant unrest in their homeland. They were moderates and did not agree with the extreme and militant actions of their fundamentalist Muslim brothers. They had many Jewish and Christian friends and as a result became the targets of harassment and threats themselves even though they were devout Muslims. My friend Ahmed is one of the few who openly admitted that Jesus is mentioned in the Koran and that although Jesus is considered a minor prophet is the only prophet who is prophesied to return in the end days. I had spent many nights exploring that and many other things with him and while we disagreed on many things, we remained fast friends. We happily admitted that I was trying to convert him and he, me. The both of us had spent many hours praying for each other, he to Allah and I for the Holy Spirit to make a breakthrough. Little did I know that God would open a renewed opportunity for me to witness to this man and now his family as well.

Towards the end of the evening, my kids had gone to bed, and my neighbour's wife and her mother-in-law had gone home with their children, leaving me, Ahmed, and Jamal in my living room, sipping tea and talking. In the end, I think that I made some headway but I am still a long way from a breakthrough. My friend made some very good points that I could not refute. None of them have any real bearing on theology or religion, rather, they were all reflected in the actual practice of our beliefs. Rather than repeating the entire conversation, I summarize his top three here.

  1. The Christians God is not true because the vast majority of His believers are not openly committed to Him. My friend has lived in Canada for over 25 years and in that time, he has seldom seen Christians pray openly to God, even over meals. If what we claim is true, why are so many of us ashamed to pray to God. My friend concedes that he knows a few Christians who are not so inhibited, but he has only seen a handful of the Christians who frequent his restaurant really pray. On the other hand, I recall vividly how my friend would spread out his prayer mat, face Mecca everyday to do his noon-time prayer regardless of how good business was or many customers were waiting in line. He would often say with a smile that he found it amusing that we would tolerate his behavior, but raise loud protests when our fellow Christians did the same, even going so far as to ban prayer in schools, eliminate God from our legislative assemblies, government, and courts. Christianity, in his mind is uncommitted and a religion of convenience. He freely admits that his fundamentalist brothers have gone too far but at least their actions are true to their belief in as much as they see it.
  2. The Christian God is not sovereign and His followers prove it. My friend argues that Christianity believes in a powerless God who is not in control. When things go bad, we blame the devil as if God can be thwarted by the evil one. When someone is killed or dies either in an accident or disaster or even naturally, when there is a disaster (natural or not), when misfortune befalls, Christians are prone to say, "It is not God's will." If it is not God's will and it happens anyway, then, according to him, the Christian God is not really God or the true god because, the one true God is in perfect control. Muslims do not make such claim, they freely acknowledge that Allah is in full command and while they may not understand why, they acknowledge that it is the will of Allah.
  3. The Christian God is unbelievable because His followers do not truly believe and do not live as He teaches. This point my friend makes is similar to the first point and related to the second. He observes that Christians are quick to preach a God of love, grace and mercy, but seldom show these to fellow believers, let alone others. He also observes that other Christians are quick to be judgmental but do not reflect the justice of God.
Of course, all His points can be refuted and argued Biblically. There are misguided Christians just as there are misguided Muslims, but that is the point! The greatest refutation of the Christian faith is the witness (or lack of witness) of the Christian. The reason why I write this is to show the importance of our witness. How we live our faith IS our witness. I urge my brothers and sisters in Christ to be authentic in our walk, to be unashamed bold in our witness, and to be loving in our boldness.

My Muslim friend attests to this saying, "If what you say about Christianity is true, then the true Christian is truly a threat to Islam. It is fortunate that there are so few of you."

Please continue praying for me as I try to witness and reflect Christ to my neighbours.

In His Name,
Arisen

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Posted: May 27 2012 09:56:58pm by arisensleeper+
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Author: revgenlink+
Posted May 27 2012 10:58:15pm
  Your Muslim friend has made some very good points and gives each of us good reason to examine ourselves carefully concerning what our true relationship is with God the Father, Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior and the Holy Spirit. Thank you for sharing these conversations with us. There are some very solid biblical responses to present to this friend. Thank you for your witness to these Muslim friends and to us. God Bless you abundantly.

Author: arisensleeper+
Posted May 28 2012 04:35:23am
  Yes, sister revgenlink, there are many solid Biblical responses indeed. What we have to remember is that it is seldom intellectual and rational arguments that ultimately win someone like my friend, who is well read and a deep thinker, over to Christ. The middle-eastern and eastern mind work very differently, I know, being Asian myself. My intellect was convinced long before I truly was. Was it not Mahatma Gandhi who said, "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." Our witness and the authentic living out of our faith, relationship building and love go a much longer way. Ultimately, it will take much prayer and the Holy Spirit to make a breakthrough.

In His Love,
Arisen

Author: tinaesanil+
Posted May 28 2012 01:36:59am
  So true brother..I am settled in a Muslim country now.I agree with the points mentioned in your blog.
No words to say...May God bless you abundantly brother..A big thank you for sharing this with us.Praying that our Abba Father will give you heavenly wisdom while dealing with your neighbours..love to know the updates..

Author: arisensleeper+
Posted May 28 2012 04:48:42am
  Dear sister tinaesanil, thank you for your kind response. Many years ago, two young Muslim students that I taught came to Christ because they became friends with small group of Christian students in a Bible Study that I led. They admitted that they were initially drawn by the words in the Bible, especially the Gospels and had joined the group to find out more, but it was the love, generosity, and genuine witness of those in the group who won them over. The most important thing is that it was not the perfect upright lives that these students that drew them. It was their humanity and the free admission of their sin prone nature. They were impressed by their confident humility and their reliance on Christ for the overcoming of everything. They so rightly saw what true authentic faith looks like. It was not perfection that won them, it was steadfast faith. Today, both praise God and the Holy Spirit for opening their eyes and heart.

Dear sister, I will add you to my prayers. God has put you and your husband in a unique place to witness in a Muslim city. May God grant you and your husband, heavenly wisdom, as well.

In His Love,
Arisen

Author: Billy Beard+
Posted May 28 2012 04:10:33am
  Of course, the true difference is who we believe Jesus Christ is. And why He came to earth. Our faith is in Him, and only through Him can we please and be reconciled to God. They, of course, will disagree. True christianity will rest entirely in Jesus Christ. Salvation, faith, election, holiness, being born again, filled, everything is in, through, and for, Him.

It is true that many go with the easy grace, just in word and lip belief. And then others, go more with the works and earning favor, for salvation, much as they do. Personally I have found that when the conversation reaches this central message, Jesus Christ, then it is pretty much over with, if they are Muslims who hold to the five pillars of faith. But there can be no compromise, that IS the gospel. Through Him is the power and wisdom of God. To reject, well, we miss. Nothing at all will have a bigger difference, regarding eternity.

Those in Jesus Christ drink from Living water. Yes, it shows. Those who do not drink poison, and not life, though the taste may seem sweet. Nuff said. Godspeed to you brother. It will get perilous, and has started, and is growing. And also the falling away. That is not all 'eeyore', either. God Bless.

Author: arisensleeper+
Posted May 28 2012 05:10:21am
  Dear brother billyb, thank you for your reply. Yes, it as you say. It is Christ who makes the difference. However, I would have to humbly disagree with your assessment of the impenetrability of Muslims who hold to the five pillars of faith when it comes to Christ. I have friends who are tent makers in the Muslim world, they do not toil in vain. Their report is consistent, it is the uncompromising adherence to Christ that brings about the graceful and loving sharing of the Gospel in words AND witness through authentic lives make the difference. As I have often said, our words alone will avail little unless our works speak alongside them. When it comes to witness, words and action are synonymous.

Dear brother, what hope do five mere pillar have against the power of the Holy Spirit? I get reports from my friends that many Muslims who come to Christ do so in spite of much persecution, rejection by friends and family, and even death.

In His love,
Arisen

Author: Billy Beard+
Posted May 28 2012 08:01:57am
  I did not mean the gospel can not reach one who is of the Islam faith. "With God all things are possible", and some come to faith in Jesus Christ, God's Son. What I meant was if they "hold" to the five pillars of that faith. Number one of course says 'God has no partner nor Son'. If one 'holds' to that firmly, then they will reject the gospel of Jesus Christ.

One of course can not 'hold' to these, and accept the gospel of Christ, as God gave witness of Him, too. And yes, if they do reject that pillar and come to faith in Jesus Christ, they will definitely suffer great persecution, possibly even death itself, as you say. But the eternal rewards will far outweigh the other. God Bless, just clarifying what I meant by 'hold', regarding.

Author: arisensleeper+
Posted May 28 2012 05:27:08am
  For those who are wondering, yes, my neighbour's wife, her daughter, and her mother-in-law, were wearing the hijab. Please understand that the hijab is not just the black robes and headgear so commonly depicted in our media. The hijab refers to both the head covering worn by Muslim women and modest styles of dress in general. They wore colourful and rather beautifully embroidered head scarfs. Their eyes and indeed, their entire face were clearly visible.

Blessings,
Arisen

Author: arisensleeper+
Posted May 29 2012 05:59:31pm
  Dear Sister Rakelah, Thank you for your comments and your contribution. There is just one minor point of clarification, Ahmed and I do not pray together, we just know that we pray for each other. This is my mistake entirely for not having been clearer in my blog.

Blessings in His Name,
Arisen

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