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IS TITHING COMPULSORY FOR THE NEW TESTAMENT CHRISTIAN ?





 
Dear brothers & Sisters in christ

Can someone advice on the sub matter ?

Our pastor urges always for TITHING ! as per his this should be given to the church where we are getting fellowship right now.

I am getting confused by all explanations below from various places!
Whichone is correct ?giving tyth to fellow church or to any other church pastors / Ministries? or its not compulsory ?


Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. So let each one give as he purposes in his heart, not grudgingly or of necessity; for God loves a cheerful giver. (NKJ)

someone advices like below !

"What he has decided in his heart to give" clearly has to be some amount (not zero). It may be ten percent or more. Well, it may even be less, but give as the Holy Spirit directs your heart; NOT AS THE PASTOR DIRECTS YOU. This is the distinct difference between giving to God and giving to the church.

I repeat there is no curse for "NOT TITHING" in the New Testament church (as is often implied on sermons from Malachi 3:10-12).We should not go back to Melchizedek (where tithing was an example and may be taken as a guide-line) or the Mosaic law (where tithing was by compulsion.) Our Lord has fulfilled all the requirements of the Mosaic Law and taken the curse of (not obeying) the Law away from us (Galatians 3:13). The New Testament Christian should abide by the teachings of the Apostle Paul (which has superseded Moses' Law.)


In Christ

Eby

Posted: Sep 21 2008 12:50:47am by Eby Raj
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Andrea Lynn (@allforhim)
Sep 21 2008 01:24:23pm
  Welcome Eby! You sure take on a tough subject for your first blog. I home school my children and we are studying the Middle East and I have never met anyone from UAE so it is cool to hear from you and I know where you are geographically. Home schooling is great, because I learn too! As for tithing, there is much contradiction, some come from the tithing camp others from the New Covenant. I was a part of the tithing camp but am now part of the New Covenant camp, because we are no longer under the law. Part of the manifestation of Christ within us is the desire to give. Give and give freely and give where the Lord leads you, not necessarily to your church. It is too easy (and this is what happened to us) to give your 10% to your church and feel like you have done your part, and it is easy to feel a sense of pride in the fact that you are a tither! That fact is that we are to give cheerfully and out of the love of Christ. Our instructions repeatedly in the Word, is give to the poor, the hungry, widows, orphans when we do this for the least of these we are doing it to Him. It is not about giving to our church to have big fancy buildings, cushy seats and an awesome worship team. And we do not solely give our money, it is really giving of ourselves 100%. Our purpose is to glorify God in all we do and giving is only a part of it. I truly believe that when we tithe by compulsion, we put God in a box. One church we went to made tithing a requirement for membership, there is no cheerful giver in that! And even if we look at the tithe of the Old Testament, it was given to those in need and those who were in need did not tithe. Blessings, I look forward to reading more! Andrea

Andrea Lynn (@allforhim)
Sep 21 2008 01:32:00pm
  Welcome Eby! You sure take on a tough subject for your first blog. I home school my children and we are studying the Middle East and I have never met anyone from UAE so it is cool to hear from you and I know where you are geographically. Home schooling is great, because I learn too! As for tithing, there is much contradiction, some come from the tithing camp others from the New Covenant. I was a part of the tithing camp but am now part of the New Covenant camp, because we are no longer under the law. Part of the manifestation of Christ within us is the desire to give. Give and give freely and give where the Lord leads you, not necessarily to your church. It is too easy (and this is what happened to us) to give your 10% to your church and feel like you have done your part, and it is easy to feel a sense of pride in the fact that you are a tither! That fact is that we are to give cheerfully and out of the love of Christ. Our instructions repeatedly in the Word, is give to the poor, the hungry, widows, orphans when we do this for the least of these we are doing it to Him. It is not about giving to our church to have big fancy buildings, cushy seats and an awesome worship team. And we do not solely give our money, it is really giving of ourselves 100%. Our purpose is to glorify God in all we do and giving is only a part of it. I truly believe that when we tithe by compulsion, we put God in a box. One church we went to made tithing a requirement for membership, there is no cheerful giver in that! And even if we look at the tithe of the Old Testament, it was given to those in need and those who were in need did not tithe. Blessings, I look forward to reading more! Andrea

Andrea Lynn (@allforhim)
Sep 21 2008 01:35:24pm
  How that posted twice I will never know, sorry!

K Reynolds+ (@kreynolds)
Sep 21 2008 02:18:04pm
  I absolutely believe we should tithe as well as give in offerings. I do not believe they are one and the same and should not be treated as such. Perhaps it is because of my background where I constantly saw pastors working full time in the ministry forced to work additional jobs because people refused to care for those who were ministering to them. I do not believe God is pleased with this. We expect pastors to be there for us at our beck and call and yet expect their families to live on nothing. Yes, there are those who are, dare I say it, profiteers. Yes, there are those who claim to be ministers of the gospel and yet they are in essence robbing God and trying to take advantage of people. However, I believe far more are suffering because God's people are standing with money tightly clenched in their hands.

When I freely give to God what is rightfully his and say thank you for your provision, I am blessed. When I give an additional gift from my heart, I am even more blessed. I don't think the excuse "I only have a little money so I don't have to give." is valid in the eyes of God. The widow gave all she had and Jesus commended her. He did not make any attempt to stop her! He didn't tell her to only give one coin instead. He knew full well she had absolutely nothing left and would have no choice but to trust in God to provide and I know that he did.

I have to tell you, we have been in similar predicaments before. Do we pay tithes or buy groceries? Pay tithes or pay our rent/mortgage? I can only say that when we have given to God first, he has always taken care of the rest in amazing ways. We once lived off a pot of chili for several weeks. It took us a few days to figure out what was going on. The amount in the pot never seemed to go down and it always tasted as fresh as when I made it. We ran out at breakfast one morning after I spooned it into containers for lunch. Yes, we were eating it for breakfast, lunch and dinner. When we got home that night, an unexpected for over $300.00 was in the mail.

The blessing has not always been financial by any means. Both my husband and I are Christ-Followers. Our 23 year old son is a Christ-Follower. He is dating a young woman who follows Christ. Our marriage of 27 years has always been strong and happy (although that's not to say we never have conflicts). God brought me through my cancer treatments and while that was not easy, people surrounded us and lifted us up. God has truly blessed me beyond belief. How can I possibly begrudge him in any way?

I guess I really have been puzzled by a lot of blogs and comments I've seen on Christianblog.com in regards to tithing. Why would you begrudge giving support to those who give so much of themselves to the body of Christ? I realize it is not always easy. I have to confess there are times when it has really been a struggle for me. That's why we call this a sacrifice. I also know that God honors my tithe and blesses me when I choose to bless others by giving (especially when it pinches a bit).

Perhaps I'm missing the point here, but if I were having a problem with giving God 10% plus additional offerings, I think I'd really have to ask myself exactly why I am having a problem with it. This is simply my opinion.

Andrea Lynn (@allforhim)
Sep 21 2008 02:55:22pm
  Ya know K, I agree with a lot of what you say, but are we under law or grace? Some are able to give 25%, some only 5%, does that make them less in God's eyes? That 5% may be much more of a sacrifice then that 25% was for the other. Does the pastor eating steak while his tithers eat beans make sense? See it is not about LAW, but grace and as the love of Christ flows through us, we give not because it is LAW but because we want to out of our gratitude and love for God. If we trust God for our provision I believe that the pastor also trusts God for his provision. And so does the church. If we make it mandatory and cram tithing down the throats of our congregation, where is the trusting God in that? I demand a salary or I am doing as the Lord has called and He will provide? I love George Mueller, because he exemplified this Christ like attitude the best I have seen in my Christian walk. He relied on God, lived very meagerly and gave all he had to God. He died almost penniless, but his riches were heaven because of the many orphans he clothed, fed, housed, educated and shared the Gospel with. He was a pastor, did not work and had all his needs provided, with boxes in the back of the church so people gave as compelled by God, not man. If we are going to expect our congregation to trust God and give 10% even though they can't buy food for their 8 children, why shouldn't we trust God as well? And shouldn't we as a church be giving to that family that cannot eat instead of expecting them to give to us? It is not about law, but grace. But I do not nay say those whom wish to tithe, but I do have a problem with those who look down on me because I don't. Many times at church I given the very last dollars we had when we had no money for food. It was not 10% of my income but was 100% of what I had because I love Him and trust Him to provide, and He always does. He does not want me to rob someone else to pay Him, He wants me to give and then trust Him to provide all my needs according to His riches and glory by Christ Jesus. Blessings! Andrea

Francisco J Zubia (@tohimbeglory)
Sep 21 2008 07:08:54pm
  What a mess of a subject, tithing? In Amos 5:21- God says, I hate your gifts and offerings But he finishes let what is right run like river. So why don't we do what is right and help pay the bills of where you meet, the cleaning, the airconditioner and heating and bunks and what ever you use to be comfortable there and have the convenience of a meeting hall. As for the Pastor, if he's got two good hands he should work for a living and provide for himself and his family like any other brother that needs to work and take care of our own families. The apostle Paul was not shy at making tents and providing for himself and those with him. He said to the churches that they should follow his example and note any brother that is unruly and admonish his to work with his hands so he can share with others. He said that if ANYONE will not work he shall not eat. Of course if your pastor is disabled you should help his lack like any brother that is needy. But giving should not be an issue, where need is and God is pleased that we share what we have with others, indeed its more blessed to give than to receive. Acts 20. So don't not think about it anymore, if any is needy and you can help, you are blessed in doing so, for that is the right thing to do, since others have helped us when we have trouble. May you be blessed. Amen. thbg

K Reynolds+ (@kreynolds)
Sep 21 2008 07:42:09pm
  I guess I've seen many more pastors subsisting on beans rather than the other way around. You have to understand that until recently, I never attended a church where a pastor was paid a set salary. There was a "limit" of what they could be paid in our denomination but I was never usually in churches where that was reached. I've seen pastors receive less than $400.00 a month and watch members drive around in new cars, take expensive vacations and live in nice houses. By the way, the pastors I knew tithed as well and many of them took what was given to them and would end up paying the electric bill, gas bill, etc because very few people would give. I believe tithing must come from the heart. I also believe that God wants me to give to him first. It seems like when I give my first fruits to God and in my case that means 10% (as that is what the word tithe means). I've never had to "rob" anyone to pay God. There have been times when I didn't see how I could possibly do it because despite careful budgeting, the car would need an $800.00 repair or something else would come up. All I know is when I have been faithful in this area, everything suddenly falls into place. I can't explain how that happens because the math just doesn't seem to add up. I only know that it does. When I am not faithful in this area it just seems like there is never enough to go around.

While I agree that we are under grace, I also believe that God has certain expectations. I have expectations as a parent and I also have them as a teacher. I state them and then I expect them to be followed. We have to remember that Jesus did not come to destroy the law rather he came to fulfill it. When Jesus spoke about tithing in regards to the Pharisee and Publican's prayer, he was not saying we should not tithe. He was saying that paying tithes does not save you.

Tithing should be a private matter. I've never been in a church where the pastor knows who is tithing and who is not. Any treasurer who would report that information should be removed from that position. What an individual gives or does not give should be confidential and should be treated as such. This means no one except the person who does the books should even know whether you pay tithes or not. No one should know how much money you make therefore they should not be able to "calculate" what percentage you're paying. The church I currently attend puts all monies (tithes and offerings) not specified for a specific area into a general fund.

Yes, I believe pastors also need to learn to trust in God for provision but I also believe that often that provision comes in the form of tithes and offerings.

I agree that no one should look down on anyone because of the amount someone gives. It really is none of their business and they should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves!

I also believe that what every you cheerfully and willingly give to God, regardless of the amount, will be blessed and multiplied by God. You can pay 50% of your income but if it is given begrudgingly, I think God would prefer that you would give nothing at all!

May all that we give to God (regardless of the amount) be freely and cheerfully given. May it be used for his honor and glory and may we be good stewards with whatever remains in our hands.

K :princess:

Eby Raj (@ebysimi)
Sep 22 2008 11:51:54pm
  allforhim: Welcome Eby! You sure take on a tough subject for your first blog. I home school my children and we are studying the Middle East and I have never met anyone from UAE so it is cool to hear from you and I know where you are geographically. Home schooling is great, because I learn too!As for tithing, there is much contradiction, some come from the tithing camp others from the New Covenant. I was a part of the tithing camp but am now part of the New Covenant camp, because we are no longer under the law. Part of the manifestation of Christ within us is the desire to give. Give and give freely and give where the Lord leads you, not necessarily to your church. It is too easy (and this is what happened to us) to give your 10% to your church and feel like you have done your part, and it is easy to feel a sense of pride in the fact that you are a tither! That fact is that we are to give cheerfully and out of the love of Christ. Our instructions repeatedly in the Word, is give to the poor, the hungry, widows, orphans when we do this for the least of these we are doing it to Him. It is not about giving to our church to have big fancy buildings, cushy seats and an awesome worship team. And we do not solely give our money, it is really giving of ourselves 100%. Our purpose is to glorify God in all we do and giving is only a part of it. I truly believe that when we tithe by compulsion, we put God in a box. One church we went to made tithing a requirement for membership, there is no cheerful giver in that! And even if we look at the tithe of the Old Testament, it was given to those in need and those who were in need did not tithe.Blessings, I look forward to reading more!Andrea Hi Andrea, cool to hear from you still now topic get diverted into two - 1) tithing camp 2) New Covenant Now my question is whichone we should follow as a born again christian ? shall we dont consider the old testament & completly believe in new testament ? Luv Ebysimi

Andrea Lynn (@allforhim)
Sep 23 2008 04:06:47am
  I would say that it is not that we discard the OT, but if are to keep one law, should we not keep the whole law? Jesus came not to abolish the law, but to fulfill it, He did that by His death on the cross, He became righteousness for us, it is not by the law we are saved, but by the blood of Christ. The Holy Spirit is within us, it is this Spirit that guides us and leads us and trying to obey laws, does not make us more holy or righteous. As a Christian it is easy to get caught up in obeying laws, but what that produces, is a child obeying on the outside, but inwardly coming apart at the seams. He summed it all up in this: "Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul and mind. Love your neighbor as yourself." In this all the laws are fulfilled for it is love that guides us, and not selfish ambition and vain conceit. [bible]Colossians 2:11-23[/bible] The above verse sums it completely. Are we to disregard the OT? No, I would then refer you over to Wormwood's new blog on how the OT is relevant today. Thoughts? Comments? Blessings! Andrea

Francisco J Zubia (@tohimbeglory)
Sep 23 2008 06:27:54pm
  Ok...ok...ok...let's all tithe so we can have peace. Is that why we all tithe so I can his someone on the head with it? No wonder God says in Amos 5:21, I hate your gifts, cerermonies, sweet songs...Now I understand God, I'm sorry I doubted him. May you be blessed. Amen. thbg

T Sia+ (@doulos)
Sep 24 2008 01:10:41am
  I think tithing acknowledges that whatever blessings we have is actually from God. Those of us who tithe believe that giving back 10% is simply honouring God for honouring us. The money is His not ours - we are stewards of His blessings.

Though we may not be compelled to pay tithes, we ought to be convicted to do so. As Tchable mentions, New Testament Christians in the early church sold what they had and gave it all to the church and lived together as a community. But no one is asking us to do that now - it's just 10%. If someone struggles financially to a point where the tithe would really make a difference, then of course God is gracious and would want that person to have enough.

We Tithe for His Kingdom
God doesn't need our money but His church does. His church is supposed to represent Him as a God who provides. And as representatives of His Kingdom, we the church should provide for the needy; feed the poor; we should be sending people to missions; supporting start-up churches and outreaches in other countries; we should have homes for the homeless, the aged and the infirmed; we should have orphanages and the list goes on. These endeavours need money. Tithes, offerings and pledges can go towards many causes to touch lives and impact communities if funds are responsibly managed.

A church's testimony is not in its wealth but in its ability to impact communities and help others.

We Tithe to Honour His Servants
Old Testament Levites survived on the tithes and offerings of the people. I guess there is logic there as their role is to serve God and serve the people; and should not become consumed with worldliness. Pastors, men and women of God serve us and deserve to be blessed. They come to us as representatives of Jesus and we submit to the Jesus in them. I think we should also give to the Jesus in them.

A pastor did not choose to not work, he chose to give his life to God and serve God's people. Pastoring is work! How would we expect to be blessed by God when we won't bless His servants? When a pastor struggles financially, he'll probably spend more time praying for himself rather than their congregation. Pastors are human and their needs and lacking may override their attention to their flock. We should see to it that our pastors are well looked after. We don't require a pastor to be poorer than the poorest member of the congregation and we should never envy the pastor even if he seems more comfortable than we are. It doesn't give us any right to not support the church with our tithes because we feel we are worse off than the man of God serving us - he deserves his keep and Jesus Himself teaches this (Matthew 10:9-10).

I think it is right and proper that part of tithes collected is used to pay a pastor a reasonable salary. Tithes also go towards the upkeep and maintenance of the house where we worship and we should contribute responsibly towards that too.

Misuse of Tithes
Can a pastor misuse tithes? Of course, but it is not our place to be judge and sentence a pastor to poverty. In any case, the subject of abuse of funds is another matter altogether and a question of church governance as mentioned by Kreynolds.

Grace to Tithe?
The question of grace is an interesting one... God granted us grace purchased with the Blood of His Son and I think we owe Him big time for paying for us, the debt that we were incapable of repaying. We are undeserving of that Grace and yet we receive it. Isn't God deserving of our grace too? Indeed there is grace, and the question is whether we have the grace to tithe. What we freely receive we freely give.

I tithe and I too have financial obligations, commitments and dependants. I could really use that extra cash - for sure - but still I give cheerfully. Not because I am obliged to but because I want to honour what He instituted for His Kingdom and His servants. I do it also to thank Him for every blessing in my life. Compared to what He has given to me tangibly and intangibly, 10% of my income is nothing. Tithes and offerings is part of my worship of Him.

And as He continues to bless me, my tithes will only grow... c'mon, I don't want to pay less tithes! That'd mean less income LOL.

It is Your Choice
We can choose to give back to God what is His to begin with and it is not giving when it is compelled. I find it ironic that we need a reason to be compelled to give. We want to quote grace so we are no longer under the law but yet we look for a law to compel us to give or to release us from having to give. Are we really just looking for justification not to? Tithing isn't about the law; it is an act of love.

Tithing is just part of the Christian lifestyle. I will be very careful before advising anyone to not tithe because for practical reasons alone, it would be a disservice to do so; and for grace I would not compel anyone either. So I would simply encourage it... We always have a choice and our reasons for tithing or not are abundantly clear to Him.

You decide...

Anna Jones (@annajones)
Sep 24 2008 07:38:57am
  All am going to say is ! When I tithe from my heart my 10% to my local church , and give of my time to others and offerings.. God is faithful to me...( And let me say to, he's faithful no matter what ) We cannot buy his love or blessings..but when I had been faithful in my tithes and offerings,,,I can say I have NEVER ! went without,,and bills have always been payed.. just me! But I just think when we give freely to God's people and others,,,we are truly blessed beyond measure. God is a good God..And knows our hearts. If I had to give out of a grudge,your right I would not give at all..He loves a cheerful giver.. Just my toughts. He has NEVER failed me..I have failed him many of times,but Thank you God you have picked me up and dusted me off,and sat my feet back on higher ground... Anna Jones

Jeff Ostema (@thereisnogray)
Sep 24 2008 11:05:34am
  At your core, you need to believe that every material thing you have comes from God. Part of honoring God means managing your financial and material blessings in such a way that you are responsible with them and for them. You should avoid debt, and prayerfully consider purchases. Responsible management means that you are always mindful of His blessing and you are prepared to give back what belongs to Him. (Remember He gave it to you?) .If you approach your material blessings this way, you will easily become a "cheerful giver." The topic of money and material blessings is difficult for many people. Some see the church as a bunch of money grabbing thieves. Others have referred to giving to the church as a form of extortion. In fact, God established the principle of financial giving as a part of effectively managing material wealth.. Effectively, the tithe is 10% of what you earn. But, rather than get hung up on the 10% figure, I encourage you to prayerfully consider what God would have you give. 2 Corinthians 9:7 says: "Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver." For some of you this cheerful giving may be 10% of what you earn. For others, it may be much more or less. To a certain extent, your giving must be sacrificial. To be in a position to give, you may be called upon to give up certain behaviors. Proverbs 3:9 states: "Honor the LORD with your wealth, with the firstfruits of all your crops." Take this verse to mean that God doesn't want the last few bucks you have in your pocket on Sunday morning. Good stewardship allows you to give to those who have less than you. More importantly, good stewardship allows God to bless you. His blessing may not be in the form of material wealth, but it will come nonetheless.

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