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Separating Politics from Religion

Most people would agree that politics and religion are the two most likely topics that could divide even the best of friends. Webster's dictionary says that politics is the political opinions or sympathies of a person, while it says that religion is a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith. Now as for me personally, except that ones religious faith could ultimately decide ones eternal destination, I don't see much difference between the two. When I watch Al Gore espousing his views on politics, I am reminded of an old friend of mine who pastors a church in Columbus Georgia. He used to flail his arms all around as he preached his views on the Holy Scriptures. One could get lost listening to either of these two men share their deep- seated, fervent beliefs in such an animated way.

During the Presidential election of 2008, we all watched with anticipation as our chosen candidate addressed the issues. Like a congregation sitting in the pews of a church, the crowds longed to hear something that would touch that part of their soul that yearned for truth. These yearnings differ from crowd to crowd depending upon the candidate on the stage. In a similar way every church crowd is a bit different in the things they want to hear. An interesting dichotomy about the makeup of these crowds is the way their loyalties can change once the discussion goes from religion to politics or from politics to religion. Nothing will put a damper upon a good political discussion quicker then bringing up one religious beliefs and vise verse as to a good conversation about religion when politics are mentioned.

I remember the day I attended a rally supporting the troops shortly after the Americans entered Baghdad back in 1002 . I was standing next to a rather large fellow who held up his sign and waved his flag with pride. We had a grand old time talking about our common political views. Then I asked him what church he went to and soon we found ourselves disagreeing on almost every facet of religion. We did not talk much after that although we were cordial to each other. Then there was the time I had a long discussion with a gentleman at my church who agreed with me on almost every topic raised on the Scriptures. However, the moment our conversation moved to politics all similarity between our thinking changed. We could not find common ground on anything political. To this day the guy will nod my way when he sees me but we never again have had such a conversation.

Experiences like these and others have led us to make up little unspoken rules of etiquette. The number one rule is usually no politics and no religion at parties and gatherings. Actually, that is the only rule that matters. So when we get in political groups we are told no talking religion, and when we get around religious groups we are told no talking politics. For most people that seems to work just fine, and so everyone in their groups are happy and content. At least that's what they think. Inevitably there are always going to be the few who refuse to conform to the rules. They find it difficult to separate their faith in God from their political beliefs, just as the founding Fathers of this country could not. It was after all the very idea of religious freedom that led the first settlers to America, and the founding fathers of our country held deeply rooted beliefs of what God expected from men who ran governments.

It's my opinion that when you tell a person to leave their religious beliefs at the door with the hat rack, that it is not only an insult to their intelligence but also an affront to their freedom of expression. I for one always have, and always will, base my political opinion on what I believe religiously. Like the founding fathers I cannot separate the two. I have written both political and religious articles that have been published through the years and even if I never specifically mention what my religion faith is in a political article, my religious belief will always factor into what it is I believe when I write my opinion about politics.

I believe people are deceiving themselves if they think they can remove their religious beliefs from their opinions on politics. For those of who say they have no religious beliefs, I would advise them to step back and look at the things which are important to them. They will find that where their heart is so to is their faith, and it is that faith that ultimately guides their beliefs.

Finally, should anyone take umbrage with my using the name of God or Christ to drive home a point in a political discussions, I would suggest they take it up with the founding fathers of this once great country. It is them who used the very name of God when they agreed to the wording in the Preamble of the Constitution. They also used Christian arguments when they wrote the many letters that would become known as the Federalist Papers. You will find no greater political document in history that states a faith in the Christian God than the Constitution of the United States of America. I would also suggest that the very idea of separating the state from the church is an impossible task that can never truly be achieved. So I ask you, if the Constitution can be both a political document and a document of faith in God, then how pray tell could I do anything less than to take God into consideration when I make a political point?

Posted: Mar 11 2010 08:51:50am by onevike
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Author: tomahawks
Posted Mar 11 2010 02:09:54pm
  Thank You Brother, and Amen,

I have always thought that anyone who claims their religion (or beliefs) are separate from their political views is one or more of the following: immature, incapable of coherent thought, an (any means to an end) leftist, or a liar/lawyer (I'm not sure this list is completely accurate or even complete).

I think
One's belief system determines what one considers right and wrong, acceptable or unacceptable. As a Christian, I don't understand how people who have no concern for right and wrong, pursuing only advantage or power, view the world or themselves. I know by faith, however, they are either lost or evil.

I do believe that good people aren't good because they know The (my) Lord; I believe there are people who have the goodness of God in them that follow another path, doing good, potentially per articles of faith in another belief system (these I pray for, because I believe we all fall short of acceptance into Heaven, but are accepted by faith in Christ alone.)

I can't help but believe one's politics derive from the foundation of one's beliefs or faith, and whether one believes in right or wrong, truth or falsehood .. versus .. there is no right or wrong, only power and no truth or falsehood, only shades of gray.

Both politics and religion are used by those who would divide and conquer for their own advantage (e.g., those who aren't really concerned about right and wrong, but are pursuing some personally adopted agenda). The left has been doing this since before I was born.

I think it's time for Christians to recognize that we are lambs only to Jesus and warriors for the Lord God Almighty and His Son, and led by the Holy Spirit.

We need to speak the truth in love and recognize that when we are confronted with intractable evil, we must be Christian Soldiers and defeat evil where we can (if necessary, physically), while He has not come.

Author: aliveintheword Pledge Partner
Posted Mar 11 2010 02:45:04pm
  onevike, a belated :welcome: to CB! Very glad to have you join us.

I really appreciate your view of the importance of history in the founding of this great country. Of course, our founding fathers were more than just "strongly" influenced by their religious beliefs (faith). Revisionists are trying so hard to overcome/overlook that.

It I am a Christian to the core (and can there be any other kind?), I can no better set that aside than I could the fact that I am male in gender issues.

It is my belief that if one's political views are not strongly influenced, in fact shaped, by their faith that their faith is not very strong or they simply don't know what they believe.

Shalom, Art

Author: kiwibird Pledge Partner
Posted Mar 11 2010 03:41:01pm
  I could probably write what I know about the American political system on the end of a flat head nail (bigger than a pin ;) ) but I'm right with you on this one. Who we are in Christ should always direct our beliefs in the political arena. I have learned however, that faith does not always indicate honesty and integrity and likewise, honesty and integrity do not always indicate faith in God. The way in which we approach both are always going to influence on the receptiveness of others but 'selling out' should never be an option.

kbird

Author: eschator83
Posted May 01 2010 07:24:16pm
  Great blog. Both my wife and Mt 7:6 slow me down from joining both political and religious conversations at most parties, but I can listen to nonsense only so long before I feel I have an obligation to speak (politely and respectfully I hope and try). Have you noticed it is almost always a flaming liberal that goes off the wall, and another liberal who accuses so indignantly "why did you get Its-all-about-me so upset?" We religious better start to speak up before we lose the right altogether.

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