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thanks for doing the research on this dangerous counterfeit religion. I have never know anyone who believed in this religion to manifest much if any of the love of God, for there is none.
B2Y
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Posted 03/24/2008 11:12pm
Author: blessings2you
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According to Dr. Robert Morley, a well-respected International theologian and researcher on apologetics and on "black liberation theology":
Now, if black liberation theology DOES NOT QUALIFY AS FALSE DOCTRINE, nothing else does!
Amen my brother, THANK YOU FOR THIS POST!
YSIC,
Virginia
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Posted 03/25/2008 05:55am
Author: happytoberestored
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Many of us across this nation we greatly relieved when we found out that Barack Obama was a follower of Christ instead of being a muslim. Now it seems the Christ he follows has very little resemblence to the one mainline Christianity follows. This whole situation makes me sad, especially for the millions of black Christians who deserve a hero and believe this man follows the same Jesus they do.
RMD
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Posted 03/25/2008 07:43am
Author: rivermandan
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Allow me to interject here briefly...
ChristianBlog.Com is not presently allowing USA-based Political Blogs at this time... please keep this blog entry centered on the topic it presents, not politics, else we will be forced to suspend it.
Thank you,
John B. Abela
Founder/Owner, ChristianBlog.Com
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Posted 03/25/2008 11:59am
Author: abelajohnb
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While this topic has racial and political overtones, those aren't the main problem with this belief system. Uncontested deception largely because of the controversial nature of the subject, has led to a spiritual cloud or better yet a spiritual net to be cast over millions of unsuspecting people, who because of the overwhelming injustices that have occurred have taken the bait. Unfortunately the Kingdom of darkness doesn't play fair. Confronting the deception in this belief system inside the body of Christ is going to be very uncomfortable on a lot of levels, however I believe that any darkness that is brought into the light is greatly weakened. God's love will overcome the world and the kingdoms of this world will become the kingdoms of our Lord.
RMD
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Posted 03/26/2008 02:54am
Author: rivermandan
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no worries mate, i actually enjoyed reading the two different posts, as you highlighted different thoughts each time you wrote it. all i was saying in my previous post is... let's keep the 2008 political candidacy incumbent discussion to a minimal amount... it will just be healthier for everyone if we do : )
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Posted 03/26/2008 05:03am
Author: abelajohnb
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Unfortunately, a lot black people have not seen true Christianity lived out before them.
Certain denominations didn't repent for, or denounce their own involvement in slavery, and racist policy until 1995!
Generations of black people have seen people that claim to be Christians, come to their homes in white sheets, burn crosses on their lawns, have lynching parties.
Bible -Believing Christians condoned slavery, encouraged segregation through the building of segregated churches and
pretty much left a lot of black people confused. How can you say you love God but hate your brother because of the color of his skin?
Ever heard of Absolom Jones? NO? Well, he was a freed-man, (once a slave) he founded the African Methodist Episcopal church. Why? Cause he got kicked out of a regular church!
"In 1786 the membership of St. George's Methodist Episcopal Church in Philadelphia included both blacks and whites. However, the white members met
that year and decided that thereafter black members should sit only in the balcony. Two black Sunday worshippers, Absalom Jones (1746-1818) and Richard Allen (1760-1831), whose enthusiasm for the Methodist Church had brought many blacks into the congregation, learned of the decision only when, on the following Sunday, ushers tapped them on the shoulder during the opening prayers, and demanded that they move to the balcony without waiting for the end of the prayer. They walked out, followed by the other black members." (excerperted from a history of the Church I found on the website of church in New Rochelle, NY)
So much for Galatians 3:13!
And where there is confusion, the Bible tells us that we will find "every evil work".
Am I condoning a false doctrine? Absolutely NOT. What I am trying to do is illustrate what happens WHEN we don't follow God's loving guidance as given to us in His Word!
selah
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Posted 03/26/2008 03:55pm
Author: blackrose65
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Thanks for sharing Rose. I guess there's really no way my race can apologize enough. I also realize changing this type of theology inside the black church is going to have to come the inside. The vast majority of white Christians are totally unaware or just recently exposed to this theology. In my city the largest black church has 12,000 members. On the sign it says it's a Baptist church. To me that meant it was an Evangelical church, but it's not. It's a very outspoken BLT church. I was a member of a church where the pastor stepped outside his demoninational beliefs. He was swiftly removed fron his denomination. You've spoken eloquently as to why this has taken root. Yet feeding yourselves poison instead of spiritual nutrition is not the answer. I'm praying this belief system will crumble to the ground and all of the injustices of the past with it.
RMD
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Posted 03/27/2008 08:06am
Author: rivermandan
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I agree with you about the liberation ideology, and I don't follow it. I am glad I got my spiritual foundations in a church that teaches the WHOLE council of God, there are many who don't want it, because they haven't seen any fruit in others that have applied it.
The reason such ideology came from, and started IN, the church is because for a few hundred years, the church was the place that blacks could gather and talk, and be mostly unchallenged in gathering together. It was the only social outlet allowed!
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Posted 03/27/2008 02:26pm
Author: blackrose65
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one more thing... for change to happen, there MUST be an acknowledgement that something NEEDS changing!
I remember when a certain president was in office and wanted to offer reparations of SOME KIND to the descendants of slaves in this country, and whoo! it was a firestorm in the press! And to THIS DAY there are states that engaged in genocidal behaviours that included the forced sterilization of black women that went on into the late 1970's that won't even offer a public apology!
God doesn't like that kind of ugly, folks...
We need intercessory prayer for that kind of stuff. It needs to be repented of.
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Posted 03/27/2008 02:33pm
Author: blackrose65
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Around a year ago my wife and I were ministering in a town about one hour away from our home. A very distraugt black man approched me afer the meeting. He shared with Mindy and I that he was very concerned for his people. He told us that in his town several churches had shifted to BLT and away from what he considered to be the salvation message of the gospel. Until that time we had no idea that BLT was actually changing basic Christian doctrine. We're praying that strong Christian black leaders will publicly confront the errors of this theology. My object was to bring this into the light, so that the body of Christ of all races can pray about this.
Rivermandan
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Posted 03/28/2008 12:59pm
Author: rivermandan
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This is a very interesting blog, but one where you have to be very careful that your view is being led by the Spirit and not from any defensive or agenda seeking secular interest. Sharing the perspective from the majority side of things, I will say that I do not condone anything being taught in the pulpit which takes the focus off of my Savior and His work. No matter if its black liberation gospel, prosperity gospel, or any other kind of gospel outside of what our forefathers preached. Notwithstanding, as intellectual and spiritual artist, we cannot paint a good picture if we never really studied our subject. What I am saying is this, last year I had the pleasure of attending a black church. The gospel preached was the Gospel of Jesus Christ. However, just as any other church would do, the congregation took the time to deal with issues of this world that affect the people of the church. Systematic racism is something that runs rampant through this society and apparently it was affecting the majority of the members of the church. Now at this point of the service I'm sure that if more whites were there they would've stormed out without listening and labeled the church BLT, but after getting through my uncomfortable stage I realized that the church used the teachings of our Savior to encourage each other and give avenues of defending themselves against the enemy (Satan not White men). Yes, as far as black history in America and the black Church are concerned, the two have often times been synonymous, but who is at fault for this.
Before I get caught up in a Sociology study of race relations (see I told you this was a hard subject to exclude secular interest), let me just say that we cannot dismiss any acknowledgement of the attacks on the saints as Black Liberation Theology. If anything we as Christian brothers and sisters should be as adamantly livid and disgusted that any saint black or white has to endure an attack on the Body of Christ. But what happens is that we, including me, get defensive whenever anything negative is said about our particular racial group. This breaks my heart. What this says is that we identify with that group more so than we do the Body of Christ. If this is something that is a thorn in the side of our Black Christians then we should be a proponent in defeating this system. I doubt very seriously that the 12,000 are all pagan witches unworthy of God's Love. I even doubt that they are BLT at all; mentioning secular trials in a black church doesn't make you BLT. So perhaps what we should do is pray more for OUR PEOPLE (Christians) and not be afraid to stand up and defend our people even if it does distance us from the secular group the devil says we belong to. If all else fells just ask yourselves, "What Would Jesus Do?"
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Posted 03/28/2008 04:12pm
Author: crosseyes
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Crosseyes this is not a forum on the black church in gereral and I'm sure the one you attended was great. Neither is this a forum on social issues being preached from the pulpit. It's the issue of many churches leaving the message of the cross, for another theology. Until a year ago I thought the same way you do and was startled to find out that BLT went far beyond social issues. It's only the truth that we know and undestand that can set us free and in no way am I implying that there are 12,000 pagans in that church. In fact I believe just like any church, some are and some aren't. Thats not for me to judge. I do know this when subtle errors in doctrine occur, many sheep follow the pastor. I've lived through this, when a former pastor of mine started changing his theology. Many of us left, yet many stayed believing what he was saying. This kind of teaching may tickle the ears of the older more mature Christians, but for those not at all grounded a message that leaves out the very basic's Jesus died for is devastating.
RMD
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Posted 03/28/2008 09:42pm
Author: rivermandan
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