Author: billyb
Posted Feb 08 2012 03:57:50pm
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"It is an undisputable fact the earth is over 4.5 billion years old." Tch, now you know better.  ..An internet search on the topic of 'creation science' should give one several sites that will indeed dispute that "theory". It will also shed light on that view you have about the 4th day, if you really want to learn, and look deep enough, there are real sharp "creation scientist" out there now, praise God. And, 4.5 billion years, is just a present theory, of secular science, at that, going by their history, that will very likely change, again, if Christ tarries.
"The 70th week will begin when the church is taken out." Scripture does not say that. One who holds to the pre-trib position, does. Others who hold to mid-trib, pre-wrath, will agree that the 70th week begins with a seven year covenant, with Israel, of the anti-christ ruler. Others do not hold to any of these mentioned, and view differently.
It is kinda slow around here. But give it time. Many will come in and things will surely pick up, concerning these topics you have mentioned. Some with, and some against. "Man's nature". Brother, that would take a while. 
As you said in a blog I wrote, everything will happen just as God has planned, regardless of how we "visualize".
I just want to be prepared, watching, serving Him when He returns. Hopefully point others in the direction to Jesus Christ, without getting side-tracked. And ministering more along the lines of 'doing' as He told us to. Perilous times brother. Everything else will be solved and dealt with when He comes. He is life itself. Death is when we look or dwell somewhere else. Each breath He is the giver of. And taker as well. In His grace, God Bless brother. |
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Author: tchable
Posted Feb 08 2012 06:18:17pm
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Billy . . . thank you for your comments. Your perspective is always welcome.
An error in my pen . . . I should have said "The 70th week will begin after the church is taken out."
This is the correct rendering. However, who knows, the seven year covenant and the catching up of the Church could be on the same day. . . with the catching up happening first. Possible but who knows. After all, it was 50 days after the resurrection of Christ when the Church began. There could be a time lapse between the catching up and the beginning of the 70th week. Point is the 70th week begins after the Church is caught up and on the signing of the 7 year covenant.
God bless brother. |
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Author: billyb
Posted Feb 09 2012 02:37:55am
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There is no debate among pre-trib, mid-trib, or pre-wrath, about the seven year agreement between the anti-christ ruler and Israel, though with others there is debate about a future seven year agreement period.
But, as to when the believers are "caught up", concerning, and in relation to that seven years, scripture does not tell us. You can give no scripture that will say at what precise moment, in relation. So, it is nothing any should be 'dogmatic' about. The 70th week will begin with the agreement. In relation to the church, 'when', 'after', 'before', is all personal perspectives, in relation to the 70th week. Scripture, alone, will not reveal when the church is 'caught up', in relation to the 70th week. Scripture does plainly tell us we will be 'saved from wrath', but it does not tell us we will be saved from this tribulation. God Bless you too brother. Maranatha. |
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Author: tchable
Posted Feb 09 2012 08:18:50am
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Hi Billy . . .
BillyB:
I agree with you completely. Here and everywhere in Scripture where the Word is not specific and leaves room for various interpretation.
My interpretation of what I have said in this article is in harmony with my understanding of the volume of the Book.
Thanks Brother Billy,
Tch |
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Author: bibleguy64
Posted Feb 09 2012 02:46:53pm
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Referring specifically to your 4th paragraph, it would not shake my faith in the least if intelligent life was discovered somewhere in the universe. "Why?" is exactly correct. There could certainly be others that God created, maybe even with different expectations. But, I believe, God is still the creator of everything and everyone, no matter where in the universe. - bibleguy64 |
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Author: tchable
Posted Feb 09 2012 03:15:03pm
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Amen Bibleguy . . . We are in total agreement in all you said.
Praise the Lord . . . yes He is . . . The creator of all things which are created . . . and all things belong to Him.
Thank you much for your response. You are a real blessing. May God Bless you richly brother, as I know He will.
InJesus,
Tch |
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Author: callinginthedesert
Posted Feb 21 2012 08:20:43pm
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Tchable,
A thought provoking blog and thank you for your openness of mind. So maybe you will be interested in how I know God's kingdom, the New Jerusalem, has been here on earth with men for close to 2000 years now. I consider myself in that holy city of God right now.
Also I see that the prophecies about Christ coming to save the nation of Israel has already been accomplished. Christ did that at the time of the first church times. Are you open to that? The multitudes aren't - they have been fooled by the devil's deceptions.
Also, I understand that we are actually at a POST millennium time, where the devil has been let loose to deceive the nations. That is why it is so hard to find the real truth anymore. The multitude has taken in the devil's lies because of what they have wanted to believe. This includes the deceptions about Israel.
I know this catches you in disagreement, but are you open to any of this?
By the way, on the subject of creation, did you know that the things that happened in the Garden of Eden were actually in the 6th day of creation? God created man, both male and female on the 6th day of creation. We find that Eve was not created until after Adam was placed in the Garden of Eden, named all the animals, and God didn't find a suitable companion for Adam, so God created Eve while they were in the Garden of Eden. So the things that happened in the Garden of Eden had to be contained within the 6th day of God's creation.
Does Tchable stand for teachable?
Blessings,
Mike |
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Author: tchable
Posted Feb 22 2012 03:16:06am
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Mike . . . thank you for your comments. I've looked into your doctrine over the years and I'm aware of what it is you believe. No need for me to go there again. I'm not here for debate. Only to share what I believe and trust Holy Spirit will open eyes where it is needed.
Most of my time on this site is in reading other brother and sister's posts. Remaining open to receiving revelation is important to me. And yes, my nickname does mean "teachable". It also means, through the anointing of Holy Spirit, I'm able to teach.
May God bless you and your family richly. I'm look forward to reading your posts as well as your comments.
Blessings,
Tch |
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Author: exodus22
Posted Feb 21 2012 09:11:31pm
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I agree with you on many of the points you were making. For example my perspective has always been on how people count up the years the bible gives us to find out the age of the earth. I believe God tells us what we need to know explicitly with his word. If God wanted us to know the exact age of the earth it would say so in the bible he wouldn't leave it up to us to count it out. To me its mute point. I think the rapture applies to us or possibly or to a future generation however. Thank you for your blog God bless. |
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Author: tchable
Posted Feb 22 2012 03:23:50am
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I appreciate your reading and responding to my blog. You said:
Probably the most percise statement which has been made thus far. I completely agree with you here. Thank you for the insight.
Blessings,
Tch |
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