Author: revgenlink+
Posted Oct 31 2012 07:31:12am
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It is true, we are in the age of grace because of Jesus Christ and His victory at the cross. God's wrath is NOT upon us, but His grace is.
It is my conclusion that those who say God's judgment or God's wrath is the reason for events are making a mis-statement. What is happening is we ARE, in these last of days, receiving warnings from God through a variety of events. Scripture has provided examples of how God does issue warnings and provides opportunities for repentance before His judgment and His wrath fall. The Church Age IS coming to a close. The Church is NOT READY to be raptured. Purification of the Church is going to take place. There will be some mighty work of the Holy Spirit completed before The Church will be removed from earth. God applies discipline to His children. We need to wake up to His discipline. We need to learn what it means to "fear the Lord," instead of sugar coating our messages as has been taking place for many years. The world needs to be awakened by His warnings of the judgment and wrath to come. It is time for a little bit of hell and fire to once again be preached.
People need to be born-again in Jesus Christ and not just play religion!
God bless you dear brother in Christ. |
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Author: Hoyle Waylan Dabbs, Sr.+
Posted Nov 01 2012 08:36:54am
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Thank you sister for reading and responding to this message. Yes, I believe people need to learn what it means to "fear the Lord." However, the fear of the Lord takes on a different meaning for a child of God than it does for one who remains a child of the evil one.
God is all powerful. With one Word He could vaporize the entire universe or create an entirely new universe. God is present always. In every place at all times . . . past, present, and future. God is all knowing. Nothing is hidden from Him. He knew us before the foundations of the earth were put into place. He knew before I was born I would be writing this comment on your post at this very moment. He is already with me in my eternal home He prepared for me. My fear for God, as a child of His, is in knowing His majesty, His awesomeness, His Love, His forgiveness, His Grace, in knowing with God nothing shall be impossible. My "fear of God", being a child of His, is in my holy reverence of Him and of who He is. My fear of God is not a terror of God. The thought of if I stumble He may destroy me does not and should not ever enter my mind. God is my heavenly Father. Being a child of His through receiving His only begotten Son as my Lord and Savior has delivered me from all fear.
Preach hell and brimstone to the lost world, not a child of God. Anyone who denies Jesus has just reason to be terrorized.
Blessings Sister,
Tch |
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Author: revgenlink+
Posted Nov 01 2012 09:35:45am
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Tch I agree with what you have written in your comment.
However, in the prophetic word spoke to me the Holy Spirit said, "My people need to understand the meaning of 'fear the Lord' for their benefit as the end of 'time' draws nearer and nearer." I am not going to deny the words of the Holy Spirit. Many of God's children do not understand what the "fear of the Lord" is referring to:
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom; A good understanding have all those who do His commandments. His praise endures forever. Psalm 111:10
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, But fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, And the knowledge of the Holy One is understanding. Proverbs 9:10
The fear of the LORD is the instruction of wisdom, And before honor is humility. Proverbs 15:33
Wisdom and knowledge will be the stability of your times, And the strength of salvation; The fear of the LORD is His treasure. Isaiah 33:6
The "fear of the Lord" is not a terror of God! The Age of Grace does not replace our need to have a healthy "fear of the Lord". It is the strength of salvation! I have always had a "fear of the Lord" and it has been a strengthening force in my walk and personal relationship with Jesus Christ. Reverence, Honor, Respect toward God and the authoritative truth of His Word are key!
Yesterday, I was pointed to a Sermon by Wes Daughenbaugh titled The Storm of the Lord which can be viewed on the internet. It is an interesting read and begins with these verses from Jeremiah. I have added these verses to the end of my blog.
Jeremiah 23:19-20 (NKJV)
19 Behold, a whirlwind of the Lord has gone forth in fury—
A violent whirlwind!
It will fall violently on the head of the wicked.
20 The anger of the Lord will not turn back
Until He has executed and performed the thoughts of His heart.
In the latter days you will understand it perfectly. |
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Author: Lum Patterson+
Posted Oct 31 2012 08:57:23am
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Great blog teach, something every Christian needs to hear and understand. The only thing God wants to pour out on the world at this time is His love through His Church. Keep up the good work.
Your brother in Christ,
Lum |
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Author: leesniteradio
Posted Oct 31 2012 09:06:00am
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(My thought on Superstorm Sandy):
Some are convinced this is God’s doing.
Some are convinced this is evil’s doing.
I’m convinced that this is a consequence of Sin.
The entire creation is different from what God created and originally intended.
When the Lord God looks over what he has made he isn't saying, “This is good.”
I believe his heart aches.
Yes Sandy can be a warning.
Yes Sandy is (on some level) a judgment.
But let it be an opportunity for people to realize what Sin has caused.
Then too, realize God did something about Sin by sending us Jesus.
Temporary tragedy doesn't have to go on eternally. |
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Author: kreynolds+
Posted Oct 31 2012 09:35:18am
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Thank you for putting this all into perspective so nicely, Tch. When sin entered this world, it set into motion things such as sickness, death, hardship, natural disasters, etc. All of these things are the consequences of living in a fallen world and not a single one of us can escape these things entirely as long as we dwell in fleshly bodies. None of us, including Christians. Yes, God can and does deliver us from some of these things but who among us has never faced things such as illness, injury, hardship of some sort whether it be finances, relationships, etc, or experienced the pain of someone we love having to go through the things?
Yes, judgment is coming but for now... we have work to do. Perhaps instead of looking for someone to blame, we had best be reaching out to others and allowing them to see the love, mercy and grace God has for them.
Blessings!
K |
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Author: watchmanjohn+
Posted Oct 31 2012 01:17:56pm
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Let me add my "two pennies" worth. Whether it is Gods wrath or Gods warning or from Satan or as a result of sin let us not escape this fact - GOD IS IN CONTROL.
We need to remember this, otherwise our faith will go into a tail spin. We read in Is. 66 these words "The LORD says: "Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool."
We need to keep this in focus as the writer to the Hebrews says Let us look to Jesus the author and finisher of our faith.
God bless you all my brothers and sisters.
watchmanjohn |
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Author: Billy Beard+
Posted Oct 31 2012 03:44:27pm
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Satan can do nothing unless God allows it. God will bless a nation whose God is the Lord. God is not mocked, we sow as we reap. Actually, I believe it is how a nation honors God, or does not honor God, that determines most of this. All are sinners, we all deserve nothing. But God desires all to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. I believe it is how we believe, and how our belief shows in our lives, that determines blessing or a curse. That is not opinion, but scripture. Many teach and believe that God makes some for unbelief, and others to believe. I believe that God has shown all the world His love through Jesus Christ the Son. God wants a people who have faith in Him, and they love God with all their heart, mind, soul and strength, through the Lord Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit is given to all who obey Him.
We are also given warning, of not doing these, and being workers of iniquity, and merely professing Jesus Christ, but He is not their first love. They have a divided heart, a double-mind. God in His mercy and grace will give such people ample time to hear, and believe, and repent. If no repentance is found or offered, then 'God is not mocked'. Such will suffer the consequenes of not heeding. "Despite unto the spirit of grace'. Such will indeed find that 'it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the Living God.' That is what scripture says, it really does not matter if such believe it or not.
Can, will, God use such disasters and events? Yes, He will. He will also allow them. They would not happen unless He did. Modern christendom acts and lives like they have no fear of God, at all. Such do not really know Him. God does not give us grace and mercy through Jesus Christ, so that we can continue in sin. God's people need to repent of such false teaching. We are in the age of both grace, and judgement. Our nation is reaping as it has sown, and will continue to, unless it repents. It is throughout the bible, what will happen to a people who turn away from righteousness, and sow the seeds of wickedness. Many will hear those dreadful words, "I never knew you". Read it, they honestly thought they did. And what they were workers of, is also right there in the text.
Sorry about the length. I really had much more . "Kiss the Son". |
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Author: Hoyle Waylan Dabbs, Sr.+
Posted Nov 01 2012 09:05:11am
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LOL Billy . . . don't concern yourself with the length. It's not like I've never went on a rabbit's trail on one of your blogs. You are always appreciated.
I'm not clear of exactly what you mean in a couple of things you said. Could you expound on these things for us please:
Thanks brother Billy.
In Jesus,
Tch |
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Author: Billy Beard+
Posted Nov 01 2012 04:53:38pm
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Tch, I will try to be brief. If more discussion is desired then perhaps I need to blog about it. The first quote is from scripture directly, Acts 5:32. Word for word.
The second quote would no doubt be questioned by many. An in-depth discussion is not intended here. Forgive but I will use a Bible dictionary, and that only one, so as I say it will not go in-depth, but enough that the point should be understood, in regards to the inquiry. I can't quote directly from the dictionary, because of reserved rights:(
We are forbidden to judge hypocritically, when we are blinded as well. Matt. 7:1-5, Lk. 6:37, Jn. 8:7, Rom. 2:1-4, or if it impinges on God's prerogative as judge, Rom.14:4, 1st Cor. 4:5, James 4:11,12.
The call to judge reputed prophets by their fruits, Matt. 7:15-17. Judge between fellow believers instead of using secular courts, 1st Cor 6:1-6. Regarding the church, Matt. 18:15-20.
Other scripture listed is Gal. 6:1, John 7:24, 1st Cor. 5:12, 1st Tim. 3:10. I did not go through each one at this reply, and perhaps should have, and there may be others as well.
Some may say that we are not as the church of Corinth, due to different times, situations, and cultures, but I would love to discuss eye-to-eye with people about that, comparing todays values, and the ones they had. They quite obviously did not believe in judging either, and Pauls instructions to them should clear that up. And of course one I remember, Peter said the time is come that judgement must begin at the house of God, 1st pet. 4:17. If we would judge ourselves, then many times we would not be judged by others, and the gospel of Jesus Christ would not be as mocked as it is today. Long enough. Brother God Bless You. In Christ also, Billy. |
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Author: Hoyle Waylan Dabbs, Sr.+
Posted Nov 01 2012 05:49:20pm
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Brother Billy, you are known as being a tickler for keeping things in context. Therefore, I'm surprised by your offering here. You and I both know Peter was not implying Holy Spirit is earned through obedience. Every born-again believer has Holy Spirit. It is through faith, the Word, and Holy Spirit we are empowered to obedience.
In reference to your comment about an age of grace and judgment it is clearly seen in my blog I'm speaking of the Grace of God and of the wrath of God, not of man.
Judgment will first come to the church . . . those who are not His will be left behind when His bride is called home.
The precepts you used, while being completely true in their proper context, are completely out of context with the message I'm conveying in the blog.
Blessings and thanks for your perspective.
In Jesus,
Tch |
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Author: Billy Beard+
Posted Nov 01 2012 06:12:15pm
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That is what he said. Albeit it was 'them', not all. Is he wrong in that statement? Neither he, nor I, said it is earned, the Holy Spirit. Do we obey the call to come? Will He abide in one who is disobedient then?
You asked about two statements tch, in my comment, and I answered them. Sorry if that offended. The 'context' I replied to, was what you asked though. Again, sorry if that offended. I'm out in this one. Love you, God Bless. In Christ, billy. |
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Author: traceyd
Posted Nov 01 2012 05:48:04am
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Although God doesnt sent disasters HE does send prophets to warn people that disasters are going to happen. We live in an era that sometimes we dont listen to Prophets. We really should because they know Gods heart better than anyone else. Kim Clement in 2007 said the storm was going to happen and last year I was also told by my sister in law a storm was going to happen in USA where did she learn this from well a womens conference that had a prophet. So yes Prophets know alot |
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Author: Hoyle Waylan Dabbs, Sr.+
Posted Nov 01 2012 09:23:55am
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Amen Sister Tracy, the Lord God does nothing unless he reveals His secret to His servants, the prophets.
With this in mind we must understand that what is to come has been given to us though His prophets thousands of years ago. The Church has no prophets remaining in the likeness of OT prophets or the foundational Apostles / Prophets. The gift of prophecy which is active in the Church today is manifested in a supernatural ability in explaining what is already written or in warning of something which is coming which is in line with the written Word we already have. The Book is complete. There will be no new scripture given. We are warned not to add to or take away from what is written.
My prays are for you to have a wonderful day basking in His love, my sister.
Blessings,
Tch |
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Author: Daryl Stenhouse+
Posted Nov 01 2012 03:08:34pm
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You shouldn't be so quick to say that disasters are caused by Satan!
Read Amos 3:3-8, and remember that God is the same yesterday, today and forever.
"Do two walk together unless they have agreed to do so?
Does a lion roar in the thicket when he has no prey?
Does he growl in his den when he has caught nothing?
Does a bird fall into a trap on the ground where no snare has been set?
Does a trap spring up from the earth when there is nothing to catch?
When a siren sounds in a city, don't the people tremble?
When disaster comes to a city, hasn't the Lord caused it?"
"Surely the Lord does nothing without revealing His plan to His servants the prophets!
The lion has roared: who will not fear?
The Sovereign Lord has spoken: who can but prophesy?"
As for the current dispensation of grace, in 1967 a lady named Leah Ann Paul was shown a vision in which she saw the Father seated on His Throne. He was facing the Gentile nations, and He had His back to Israel. As she watched, He started to turn. She realised that soon his face would be toward Israel, and His back to the Gentile nations. As they have received great blessings, and the Jews have suffered, so the roles will be reversed. As it says somewhere in the Psalms, "When God's judgements are revealed, the people of the earth learn righteousness." And soon it will be the turn of the Jews for salvation: the full number of Gentile believers will have come in! So you should realise this: the times are a-changin'! |
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Author: Hoyle Waylan Dabbs, Sr.+
Posted Nov 01 2012 04:15:43pm
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There is nothing quick in me saying the wrath of Sandy was not from God. My words are based on being a student of God's Word for over 30 years.
Sandy is no different than any other natural disaster which has occurred during the Church age. The Church is not a nation. The Church is a Spiritual creation consisting of members world wide. Members of the Church are in the world but they are not of the world.
Thousands of born-again believers suffered the wrath of Sandy. Their lives and livelihood being devastated by it . God has told us we are not appointed to wrath but to salvation. Therefore God will not pour out His wrath on His own. We will have troubles in the world but these troubles come from the world and the ruler of this world, not God.
As far are Leah Ann Paul she revealed nothing that is not already written. Yes, gentiles will once again be judged by God. However, never forget, as a born-again believer we are no longer gentile. We are a new creation in Christ Jesus. Before God's wrath falls on men Christ's bride will be with Him safe and secure.
Blessings,
Tch |
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Author: Daryl Stenhouse+
Posted Nov 01 2012 03:38:38pm
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I must say something about your statement, "The Church has no prophets remaining in the likeness of OT prophets or the foundational Apostles/Prophets."
I used to think this, too. Then I read 1 Thess. 5:19-21, "Do not put out the Spirit's fire, do not regard prophecies with contempt. Test everything, hold onto the good stuff, and toss out everything that is evil." I began to wonder if the prophetic gift had been wrongly extinguished, and was actually still available! Later I saw John Paul Jackson on TV, and he said that God wants to communicate with us through our dreams. So I gave God permission to do that, and He started!
I asked Him about that issue of new prophecies, are they new Scripture? I saw, in red letters, "1 Cor 12". I looked it up, and I believe He wanted me to see verse 22 as more than a list: it is also a heirarchy of authority for those who speak God's word! "Apostle" is the top level, and I take this to mean the Old and New Testaments. The prophets and teachers are below this level, therefore anything they produce must be regarded as below the Bible in authority. Note what this implies! If it is okay for a teacher to publish sermons or books, it is also okay for a prophet to do so! But no teacher or prophet should ever claim that their works are equal in authority with Scripture. |
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Author: Hoyle Waylan Dabbs, Sr.+
Posted Nov 01 2012 04:23:07pm
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I have not said Apostles and Prophets were no longer in the Church. I said they no longer function in the likeness of the foundational Apostles and Prophets. The Apostles and Prophets of the first century Church (the Apostles of the Lamb and the Prophets who ministered under their supervision and authority) built the foundation. Today's Apostles and Prophets build onto the existing foundation in planting and raising up new bodies of believers.
Blessings,
Tch |
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