The Bible is crystal clear when it comes to the subject of charging interest on debt. Unlike today's moneychangers who seem to have no problem saddling people with upwards 54% interest on credit cards in the UK and even excellent customers in the USA with rates pushing 25%; the Bible presents an entirely different view on this topic.
In Exodus 22:25 it plainly states in the NKJV:
"If you lend money to any of My people who are poor among you, you shall not be like a moneylender to him; you shall not charge him interest."
Part of the problem in understanding all this lies in the word "usury". Today, usury is defined as; the lending of money at an exorbitant rate of interest. Where this may be the usage today, in the Bible it is referring to the lending of money WITH ANY INTEREST. The charging of interest in the lending of money is not allowed by God. "Well how is a bank to make a profit?" some may ask. My response would be to show me any Biblical basis for a bank to begin with.
Everybody likes the notion of "investing" in a bank and having them pay you to "park" your money there. Whether savings accounts, money market accounts, CDs or other means; banks have been paying people interest to hold their money for many years. The idea was that the bank would then use that money to lend to those needing to buy a house, car or start a business. Invariably, the amount charged in interest on loans was always higher than the amount paid in interest on investments. That is how the bank made money.
Please look closely at this section from Leviticus 25:35-37:
"If one of your brethren becomes poor, and falls into poverty among you, then you shall help him, like a stranger or a sojourner, that he may live with you. Take no usury or interest from him; but fear your God, that your brother may live with you. You shall not lend him your money for usury, nor lend him your food for profit."
I fail to see how God could make this any plainer. God's people are absolutely forbidden from charging interest on money lent to other believers.
Every time I go to the doctor I must pass a place that gives Pay Day Loans. I understand that some of these places charge over 1,000% interest on their loans. Right next door to this place is a tax preparation business that opened two weeks ago promoting loans on tax refunds. Again, they will do this if a person is willing to pay the exorbitant interest. Many years ago I remember pawning my wedding ring and paying weekly payments (interest only) which within a matter of a few weeks was more than the ring cost to begin with.
The world is full of corrupt people who make their living charging interest rates which turn a person into nothing more than a slave. That is the danger with owing money with any interest attached to it. Loaning/borrowing is NOT forbidden in the Bible, but charging interest on such money IS.
To make this whole thing crystal clear, please look at Deuteronomy 23:19 and 20:
"You shall not charge interest to your brother-interest on money or food or anthing that is lent out at interest. To a foreigner you may charge interest, but to your brother you shall not charge interest, that the Lord your God may bless you in all to which you set your hand in the land which you are entering to possess."
The charging of interest to those outside the household of faith, so to speak, was allowed and implied to be done in order to make money; but the charging of interest to fellow believers was strictly forbidden.
In the prophet Ezekiel's time, Jerusalem had turned into a cesspool of every kind of evil imaginable. In Ezekiel chapter 22, the prophet is told to blow the lid on all the horrible things being done in the city. In Ezekiel 22:1-11 one abomination after another is detailed, some of which (such as verses 10 and 11) are pure filth. By the time we get to verses 12 and 13, we are dealing with the topic we are discussing:
"In you they take bribes to shed blood; you take usury and increase; you have made profit from your neighbors by extortion, and have forgotten Me, says the Lord God. Behold, therefore, I beat My fists at the dishonest profit which you have made, and at the bloodshed which has been in your midst."
God does not take highly to people getting wealthy by charging interest on debts owed by His people. This amounts to extortion as far as God is concerned. This is nothing different than the "thugs" who break the legs of those who fail to pay back money to loan sharks.
In Nehemiah's time, there was a famine. Many Jewish families mortgaged their lands and vineyards and houses to buy grain. They then had to borrow money to pay the king's tax on their lands and vineyards (today's property tax). It got so bad they had to sell their own children into slavery to pay on their debts. When Nehemiah heard of all this he became very angry and according to Nehemiah 5:7 he says:
"After serious thought, I rebuked the nobles and rulers, and said to them, ‘Each of you is exacting usury from his brother.' So I called a great assembly against them."
You can read in Nehemiah 5:8-13 what transpires, and it is a great example of what can happen when a man of God stands up for the truth and demands obedience to God's Word. Needless to say the problem was resolved.
There is a crisis of monumental proportions gripping this country even as I type these words. The banks and other financial institutions are failing due to unsound lending practices. No amount of Federal money infusions is helping. As the banks panic they are seeking to raise money by doubling, tripling and sometimes quadrupling the interest rates they are charging even their good customers on credit card balances.
The resulting burden being placed on borrowers is causing a wave of defaults which force the banks to charge even higher interest. It is a vicious cycle which seems to have no end in sight. Soon the banks will be charging higher and higher fees for everything as they search out new ways to find money.
In the days ahead I will continue this discussion both Biblically as well as personally. I have a story to tell which will make you either condemn me or pray for me. What these institutions have done to my wife and I the past two months and even yesterday is outrageous, unethical and proves conclusively who is in charge of our financial institutions. I did not want to share any more on this without first laying out what the Bible says on the subject of charging interest. Thank you for reading.
I have heard on the BBC that Islamic Banking which is common in the Middle East and in primarily Muslim countries is forecasted to go the same way as the free world's banking system - when that happens....... only God can save us from further destruction......... it wont be long when the end will come. Even so, please keep us Your children faithful to You Lord Jesus to the end. Amen.
Very good blog, some practical knowlegde from the Word (of course it is all practical), that people have forgotten. I would point out though that we have come to limit this to mean believers, but the "brothers" spoken of in these passages were their countrymen native born, but it also applied to strangers and sojourners those of other nations that had come to live as citizens. It is only a foreigner who may be charged interest.
I think of this way. Your brother and your neighbor all have property in this land, God is very interested throughout scripture with keeping people in their property. Man is meant to possess property and use it for God's glory. If you charge interest on someone in your land you run the risk of driving them into poverty and eventually causing the loss of their land and provision for their family. An actual foreigner though, why would he want to be lent money at all? The fact that he is a foreigner means he has a dwelling in another country, so why is he hear? To do business, of him you may charge interest. Even if he is driven into poverty in your land he can still go back to his land.
The scripture is full of other great financial advice like not repossessing a man's means of livelihood or shelter. Forgiving debts every seven years (where would America be if we did that?). Trying to help people stay in their lands. Trying not to pack as many people as possible into one place.
Thanks for the blog, people need to hear what God's word says on the issues of how to live since he commanded "for our good."
Excellent comment JSCLARK. You bring up some of the very things I pray to present in more detail shortly. Your insight into foreigners is dead right on and thank you for bringing it up.
Thank you ptl2008 for mentioning the Islam banking methods which until recently stuck to the Old Testament rules regarding charging interest. Even these banks are succumbing to the pressures of losing money and trying to get it back the old fashioned way--by charging absurd interest on loans of all types. God help us.
In the uk we have a law that means that if a company fails to pursue and get back its leant money after 7 years the debt must be dropped.
It is applicable to various types of small loans.
This means that the little guy can survive, but god designed us all to be like the eagle, flying high above all other nations and creatures, not surviving but soaring high above all things.
We should only get into debt when God has supplied no other means of income, if we are already in debt we should not beat ourselves up but continue to praise god.
Even whilst in debt we should be saving a small percentage of our income, and tithing a small percentage. (Say 10% for each) .
Helping the poor, orphans and widows is very important to god's heart also(And he promises your healing for doing this).
In the end your do feel better when you earn your way.
God is with you he is your provider, educator, guardian and Omnipotent.
Blessed be the Lord God, he is good to all who enter his gates, bring him praise and thanksgiving!
One thing that troubles me is that there seems to be a world-wide state of financial woes, and there are those who want to find world-wide solutions (those solutions to the benefit of the banks and stock markets rather than the individuals) I fear that the hour is not far away when a "world government will have total control over every cent of money and every industry, meaning total control over the average citizens of the world. Am I speaking as a paranoid alarmist? I see too many bad signs. Perhaps through prayer and raising awareness of the reality of the situation, we can change the tide, or at least soften it a bit.
So keep raising awareness, B2Y. May God bless your effort.
My prayers are with you.
I am looking forward to the continuation of this blog. I really enjoy your writing and I am dealing with financial issues myself. For instance 24% intrest rate on my student loans through sallie mae and just being denied for a apartment due to medical bills from when I was in ICU with no insurance and was extremly ill. They didnt want to aprove us even though we make 13 times the monthly rent. Seems like things are getting tougher left and right and everything is a driven force w/ money. Sometimes I sit back and look around and cant believe I am living in this world.
As interest rates keep climbing and creditors deliberately slash credit lines down to levels which just happen to match your balance so if you're caught unaware you'll be over limit, I am thankful that I serve a God who really does have me covered.
If I didn't keep a close eye on things and check on a daily basis, an automatic payment for my son's tuition (which I pay later in the month) would have unknowingly put us overlimit and that would have been a fine mess to get out of! That can really turn into a vicious cycle.
Late this fall, we discovered that due to a variety of situations and trying to get back on our feet after my medical leave, there would be a nice gap each month. This gap of course, conveniently matched our tithes for the month. I know there's been a lot of debate about this on this site but I still say I personally do not believe in taking what is designated for God and using it to pay other stuff. That has never worked out for me and I don't like the person I become when I do!
The gap was filled in November, December, January and I'm holding my breath a bit but it looks like it will be filled in February as well.
Last week, after my husband ran sound for a series of concerts at the college, the director said he wanted to buy my husband lunch. He wrote a check and handed it to my husband. The check had three figures. All I can say is that would buy a lot of lunches.
In these times of trouble and uncertainty I am so glad that I'm under the protection of the King...and He is not affected by the economy!
May God give us wisdom and protect and help us as many of us navigate stormy waters. May our faith become stronger than ever and may we fully understand that He truly is the Lord God Our Provider!
Excellent blog B2Y! I have a better understanding now of why J.C. Penney didn't want to establish credit in his stores! It's a shame that more Christians don't have a better understanding of this issue, the banking industry would be different today!
Well I must say this conversation is very interesting for so many reasons.
1.Being the state of the world right now, we are seeing, hearing and some of us are feeling it all.
2.God said that the love of money is the root of all evil, so I am not surprised with what is going on with the banks, the housing market and the loss of many jobs lately.
I don't know how many of you read my blog I'm Rich, in which I plainly detail my current financial situation.
The first thing as Christians that we should remember is that The World loves their own; We as believers know what God's word says and we try our best to do as He says, but those of the world don't know neither can they see Him or hear Him. I don't think that it is Christians that are charging Christians interest. It is the world and Satan's children that have greed in their hearts and care only for themselves.
I wish you guys could see how I live, being 80 dollars above the U.S. poverty level; WITH GOD; like a queen.
1.Because I am the head and not the tale
2.Because I am the lender and not the borrower
3.Because I give and it shall be giving unto me pressed down shaken together shall men give into my bosome.
4.Because I pray for wisdom and I use it as God gives it
5.Because I take no thought for tomorrow, what I should eat, drink or wear
6.Because I care not for the cares of the world
And that's how I deal with money,bills and needs
I do not have a lot of debt. I only have a two more years left to pay for my house and one more year on my car. Everything else is paid for. My husband is from Mexico so he does not believe in debt. I never worry about where I am going to get money for food or bills because God always provides. God has always pressed my heart to help others in need. I may not have much but I would give my shirt off my back if that is what God wants. I once helped a family who had no money and they were expecting a child. They did not speak english. They did not have a place to live, food or anything for the baby. I felt the Lord saying to me Help this family. I only had a few dollars in my pocket and I had to buy diapers for my daughter. I said okay Lord, you know better than I. I made a few calls and was able to get them an apartment where they could do maintaince around the complex in order to pay the rent. I looked in my pantry for something to give them to eat and I gathered up some baby things that I did not need and got them settled for the night. A few months later I came home from church and there was a note on my door. It was saying thanks for being their angel in there time of need. There was also a little money in the envelope. I was very surprised because it was exactly the amount I needed to pay my light bill. I knew that God had been watching over me and my family. The other family and I very close now. I was able to share the word with them and they are now saved. In fact they named their second child after me because they say that I was their little angel. That is what my name means, little angel. God always is there when we need him and he is always there when we think we do not need him. The current economic mess is because people are not turning to God and are getting greedy. If we all took care of each other we would not be in such a mess. Thanks for reading. God Bless ALL of you. Angelita
Thank you all for your inspiring comments. I am a retired ex motrgage banker. I was an ethical lender, I worked for the largest lender in the nation. I quit because they were not ethical. I was in banking 10 years. I helped people buy homes. I made sure they could afford them with the proper debt to income ratios, I really enjoyed my job. Until the company started MAKING us the lenders, sell products which were in my opinion very volitile for the borowers and the lender. They only had a short fixed period rate of interest 1,2,3,5 years, and most had a prepayment penalty, then they raised the debt to income ratios from 36% to 55% back end which is the principal interest and insurance payments combined with the fixed debt apearing on the credit report. Very bad.
The reason this counry and the rest of the world is in the financial condition it is now is because it is supposd to be. I know that sounds wildly weird, but think about it, first they lend money to folks who really cannot afford to borrow and then they start cutting employment. I do not believe in coincidences, the World Bank and the FED lowered the rate of intrest to 1% not to the borrowers, but to the banks, and encouraged many 'boutique loan programs'. Now presently there are over 8400 banks about to go down in this country to the tune of 13 Trillion dollars! No one is talking about it are they. No not much they aren't..
As I said this country has been financially manipulated, and assets are gone, gone, gone... But the FED just keeps printing mony and thegovernment just keep printing treasury notes. Interest, hummmm
The only real way a democracy can be controlled is through it's finances and the manipulation of them. Tightly buckle up because the ride here in the land of the free is about to get vey bumpy indeed. Freedom is just another thing we lost and diden't even miss, because we were to busy worrying about the financs.
It is a sign of the end as well, money is becomng worthless as the paper it is printed on. Food and energy will be what the new carrot and stick will be from our government, and it will get waaaay worse befor Jesus gets here.
Watch out for legislation that is passed very quickly, before we even have a chance to consider it, like the Patriot Act...Laws are coming that will make this a totally diffrent world. And not in a good way...
"And when these things begin to come to pass, look up, and lift your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh." Luke 21:28
God bless and keep you faithful for He is coming soon!
Thank you so much "pk777" for the valuable first hand information on the current crisis. I pray anyone reading this pays extra close attention to what she said for it explains far better than I ever could the what and why of how we have ended up in the mess we are in. Thank you for sharing so much with us.
I just had to comment again on this after reading pk777's comment. This is something I've thought about a lot for some time. A lot of what has been going on has reminded me of what was happening in Germany post WW1. When I was in high school, my German teacher was Estonian. She and her husband moved to Germany just prior to the beginning of WWII.
I remember her talking about what things were like...how people were paid daily. They'd carry suitcases in which they would put their pay at the end of the workday. Then, stop to buy what food they could on the way home. It would take most if not all if their marks. The money was pretty much worthless. We all know what that led too.
Thanks PK777! I was trying to explain to my husband about the banks rates and your blog was very helpful. In Mexico, it used be alot like what kreynolds described. In fact they still have alot of problems because they change the rate so much and fast. What cost me 10 pesos in the morning cost me 60 pesos in the evening. I am very grateful to my Lord for all that he provides. I can not wait for the blessed day that He comes back. People do not see the signs. When our country fails so many other countries who are depended on us will fail. Indeed He is coming soon. I pray that people open their eyes and see what a wondrerful, mighty God He is.
I do have a question though what is considered a foreigner? As I have mentioned before My husband is from Mexico but he left his country when he was young because he felt the Lord telling him to come to America. He has been here for many years now and does not want to return to his country to live, he says that he is an American now and is willing to die for this country and protect our freedoms. So is he a foreigner? Thanks
Officially a "foreigner" is anyone who is not a United States citizen. But I know that there are many new laws and things passed recently with regard to those who have lived here for many years, especially from Mexico. I don't know what the current law says in regards to people such as your husband. I congratulate him for his willingness to stand up for this country but I don't know what constitutes him being here legally. That is a subject for another blog though.
Thanks blessings2you for the information I guess I sould have stated that he came here "legally" according to the laws of the land. I enjoy reading alot of your blogs, they are very insightful. I am amazed at your knowledge of the word and my prayer is that I continue to grow in the word so that I may be able to share more truth with people. God bless you!
Yep, the money thing has nudged most Americans out of their lethargy, but only a little. We serve a risen Savior who can make bread fall from the sky to feed His children, and strech 2 fishes and 5 loaves to feed five thousand...
He knows when a sparrow falls, He will take care of His own when the time comes.
The reason that America and the rest of the industralized nations are in this financial crisis is soon going to be relized. My theory is this, firstly, I do not believe in coincidence. What has transpired through the monetary systen is a planned act. It is a Hierarchal plan which was instituted from way back in 1913 when the dollar was taken off the gold standard by Roselvelt. The Unites States had NEVER before had debt, and the powers that be knew that an independanly financial society could not be manulapted. So that is why and when the plan was started to transform this debt free republic to a indebeted sociaty now called a demcracy. Notice we are very rarely refered to as a 'republic'. Most folks do not know the diffrence, but there is a big one, and it has to do with the power and presents of government in a so called free society.
Here are a few quotes you all might find interesting, I sure did...
"Secret societies are always inimical to a free society. It is impossible to judge whether elected and appointed officials are truly acting as public servants or are serving an agenda of hidden confederates, if membership in secret societies is permitted or winked at."
William F. Jasper, The New American, Vol. 20, No. 5, March 8, 2004
I wonder how many are in fact members of these societies, by their fruits ye shall know them...
"Further global progress is now possible only through a quest for universal consensus in the movement towards a new world order."
Mikhail Gorbachev, before the UN, December 7, 1988
I kow this has been banterd about, but truth is stranger than fiction...
"From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilisation and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing."
Sir Winston Churchill - Illustrated Sunday Herald, February 8, 1920
Woa.. or rather woe...
"Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny."
Robert A. Heinlein
"The real danger is the gradual erosion of individual liberties through automation, integration, and interconnection of many small, separate record-keeping systems, each of which alone may seem innocuous, even benevolent, and wholly justifiable."
U. S. Privacy Study Commission, 1977
This is what is happining right now under our very noses...
"The Trilateralist Commission is international... [and] ...is intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the United States. The Trilateralist Commission represents a skillful, coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate the four centers of power - political, monetary, intellectual, and ecclesiastical."
Barry Goldwater (1909-1998) US Senator (R-Arizona), in his book "With No Apologies"
You should really read his book...
"...there was no point in seeking to convert the intellectuals. For intellectuals would never be converted and would anyway always yield to the stronger, 'and this will always be the man in the street.' Arguments must therefore be crude, clear and forcible, and appeal to emotions and instincts, not the intellect. Truth was unimportant and entirely subordinate to tactics and psychology... Hatred and contempt must be directed at particular individuals."
H. Trevor-Roper (ed), The Goebbels Diaries, p. XX, cited in Regan, Geoffrey. 1987. Great Military Disasters. New York: M. Evans and Compan
They seem to only care about their agenda, and will steamrole anyone or thing which may seem to prevent it...
"We are the tools and vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
John Swinton, former New York Times editor, in a speech during a banquet with colleagues (c. 1880)
This gent was telling the truth, and it is still being done, we have been dunbed down and fattened up, we rely totally upon what they decide to tell us.
"It is the sacred principles enshrined in the UN Charter to which we will henceforth pledge our allegiance."
George Herbert Walker Bush, Speech at the UN, February 1, 1992
I was under the impression thepresident was supposed to pledge his allegence to the United States???
"A clique of U.S. industrialists is hell-bent to bring a fascist state to supplant our democratic government and is working closely with the fascist regime in Germany and Italy. I have had plenty of opportunity in my post in Berlin to witness how close some of our American ruling families are to the Nazi regime. They extended aid to help Fascism occupy the seat of power, and they are helping to keep it there."
William E. Dodd U.S. Ambassador to Germany 1937
Most of the ruling families in this country subscribed to this and still do...
"Not only were many of the founders of the United States government Masons, but they received aid from a secret and august body existing in Europe which helped them to establish this country for A PECULIAR AND PARTICULAR PURPOSE known only to the initiated few."
Manly P. Hall, The Secret Teachings of All Ages, pp. XC and XCI
He is right and still today is, Georgr Washington was a mason as was Ben Franklin, and most of the last 44 presidents. If you do not belong to the society of the brotherhood then you do not get into politics, or an office of power...
"It's been demonstrated that well within two minutes of watching television, most people enter a hypnotic alpha state bordering on theta. Viewers in this state are no longer able to critically evaluate, discern, or pass judgement from their own moral database on the material being viewed. The information just flows, unimpeded, into their subconscious year in and year out."
Jeff Rense, talk-radio host
Again the dunbing down of America, we do not read as a nation any more, and thefew who do do not know how to read critically.
"The ruling class has the schools and press under its thumb. This enables it to sway the emotions of the masses."
Very true, very scary...
"The world has a cancer, and that cancer is man."
Merton Lambert - former spokesman for the Rockefeller Foundation - Harpeth Journal, December 18, '62
"In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the
Here are a few more...
"In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill ... All these dangers are caused by human intervention and it is only through changed attitudes and behaviour that they can be overcome. The real enemy, then, is humanity itself."
Alexander King, Bertrand Schneider - founder and secretary, respectively, of the Club of Rome - The First Global Revolution, pp.104-105
"When we got organized as a country and we wrote a fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of individual freedom to Americans... And so a lot of people say there's too much personal freedom. When personal freedom's being abused, you have to move to limit it. That's what we did in the announcement I made last weekend on the public housing projects, about how we're going to have weapon sweeps and more things like that to try to make people safer in their communities."
President Bill Clinton, 3-22-94, MTV's "Enough is Enough"
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies."
"...In short, the 'house of world order' will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down. It will look like a great 'booming, buzzing confusion,' to use William James' famous description of reality, but an end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece, will accomplish much more than the old-fashioned frontal assault."
Richard N. Gardner, in "Foreign Affairs," April 1974
"Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws."
Amschel Mayer Rothschild, 1773-1855
"There ought to be limits to freedom."
Governor George W Bush, May 21, 1999
"To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men, their individualism, loyalty to family traditions, national patriotism and religious dogmas."
G. Brock Chisholm, co-founder of the World Federation for Mental Health, former director of UN World Health Organization
"Whoever controls the volume of money in any country is absolute master of all industry and commerce."
James A. Garfield
"...The age of nations must end... The governments of the nations have decided to order their separate sovereignties into one government to which they surrender their arms."
Preliminary Draft of a World Constitution, 1948, introduced in Congress by Senator Glen Taylor in 1950
"Big Brother in the form of an increasingly powerful government and in an increasingly powerful private sector will pile the records high with reasons why privacy should give way to national security, to law and order, to efficiency of operation, to scientific advancement and the like."
William O. Douglas 1898-1980), U. S. Supreme Court Justice
"History teaches us that man learns nothing from history."
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel
"This idea of a planned world-state is one to which all our thought and knowledge is tending ... It is appearing partially and experimentally at a thousand points ... its coming is likely to happen quickly."
H.G. Wells, The Open Conspiracy: Blueprints For A World Revolution, 1928
"The exact contrary of what is generally believed is often the truth."
Jean de la Bruyère
"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happened, you can bet it was planned that way."
Franklin Delano Roosevelt (1882-1945), 32nd US President
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule."
Henry Louis Mencken (1880-1956), American editor, critic
"There are no innocent civilians, so it doesn't bother me so much to be killing innocent bystanders."
General Curtis E. LeMay
"Whatever the price of the Chinese Revolution, it has obviously succeeded not only in producing more efficient and dedicated administration, but also in fostering high morale and community of purpose. The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao's leadership is one of the most important and successful in human history."
David Rockefeller, on record as stating in 1973 about Mao Tse-tung: (NY Times 8-10-73)
"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator."
President-Elect George W. Bush
"Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people."
"The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes."
Benjamin Disraeli, 1844
"The American people should be made aware of the trend toward monopolization of the great public information vehicles and the concentration of more and more power over public opinion in fewer and fewer hands."
Spiro Agnew, U. S. Vice-President, 13 November 1969
"The owners and managers of the press determine which person, which facts, which version of the facts, and which ideas shall reach the public."
Commission On Freedom Of The Press
"The Trilateral Commission doesn't run the world, the Council on Foreign Relations does that!"
Winston Lord, Assistant Secretary of State, the U. S. State Department
"Everything secret degenerates, even the administration of justice; nothing is safe that does not show how it can bear discussion and publicity."
"Christianity is our foe. If animal rights is to succeed, we must destroy the Judeo-Christian religious tradition."
Peter Singer (father of the animal rights movement), The Deweese Report, November 1998
"The very word 'secrecy' is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it."
John F. Kennedy in a speech before the American Newspaper Publishers Association (27 April 1961)
"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of State and corporate power."
Benito Mussolini, 1883-1945, Fascist dictator of Italy
"History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling the money and its issuance."
James Madison (1751-1836), Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President
"We shall have a World government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World government will be achieved by conquest or consent."
James Paul Warburg, February 17, 1950, before the U.S. Senate
and then there are these two...
"It was not my intention to doubt that, the Doctrines of the Illuminati, and principles of Jacobinism had not spread in the United States. On the contrary, no one is more truly satisfied of this fact than I am."
President George Washington, October 24, 1798, in a letter to George Washington Snyder
"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened."
Sir Winston Churchill
People usually believe what they are told, not so much because they trust the source, but it relieves them of responsibility from searching for the truth on their own...
Our Savior said; "And ye shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free."
There is way more to the deception which is now being played upon not just the American people, but on the world...
Ask me what it is...
MY QUESTION TO THE WORLD, IF CHRISTIANS BELIEVE IN THE TRINITY AND
DOES NOT SAY ANYWHERE IN THE BIBLE AND THAT JESUS IS GOD OR HIMSELF
SAYING WORSHIP ME. MY QUESTION IS CHRISTIANITY BELIEVES PROPHETS THAT CAME BEFORE JESUS, WHAT WERE ALL THOSE PROPHETS PREACHING ABOUT, WHERE THEY PREACHING THE TRINITY, IN THE BIBLE IT SAYS MOSES SAYS OF HEAR ISRAEL YOUR GOD IS ONE, WHY DID MOSES SAY THAT. WHAT DID ABRAHAM, SOLOMON, JACOB, ISAAC, ISMAEL, ADAM, ETC, WERE THEY PREACHING THE ONENESS OF ALLAH (GOD) OR THE THREE TRINITY.
MY SECOND QUESTION IS IN THE BIBLE IT SAYS JESUS RESURRECTED LIFE
FROM THE DEAD, JOSEPH TOLD THE FUTURE, SOLOMON CONTROL ANIMALS,MANKIND AND JINN KIND (SPIRITS). SO MY QUESTION IS WHO ELSE CREATED LIFE, IT WAS MOSES WHO CREATED LIFE, HE TOOK A STICK AND MADE IT TO LIFE IN GOD PERMISSION.
MY THIRD QUESTION IN THE BIBLE ITS SAYS THAT JESUS CAME OUT OF VIRGIN
MARY, WHAT WAS THE PROVE TO THE PEOPLE, BECAUSE PEOPLE BELIEVE WHAT THEY SEE, WHAT WAS THE PROVE OF THE VIRGIN BIRTH OF JESUS. IN THE QURAN THERE IS PROVE THAT JESUS TALKED WHEN HE CAME OUT OF THE WOMB OF MARY. QURAN, SURAH:19:25-38.
MY FOURTH QUESTION, EVERY SOUL SHALL TASTE DEATH EVEN THE ANGEL OF DEATH, IT SAYS GOD NEVER BORN, NEVER DIES, EVER ETERNAL. SO MY QUESTION TO THE CHRISTIANS WHY DO THEY BELIEVE IN JESUS TO BE GOD, IF HE IS BORN AND HE DIES AND HE DOES NOT KNOW THE HOUR OF THE JUDGEMENT DAY.
MY FIFTH QUESTION JESUS CAME OUT OF VIRGIN MARY, SO ADAM WAS CREATED FROM CLAY AND WATER AND EVE (HAWA) WAS CREATED FROM THE RIB OF ADAM,EVEN THOUGH MUSLIMS SAY THEY WERE HUMANS WHY DOESN'T CHRISTIANITY ACKNOWLEDGE THE TO BE GODS OF GOD. BECAUSE THEY HAD THE SAME OR BETTER BEGINNING AS JESUS.
MY SIXTH QUESTION IS WHY DID JESUS SAYS MY SIGNS ARE THE SAME AS JONAH, WHERE JONAH WAS ALIVE IN THE BELLY OF THE WHALE FOR THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS, WHY DID JESUS SAY THE ONLY PROVE THE JEW WOULD GET IS THE SIGN OF JONAH, MUSLIMS SAY A COPY WAS MADE OF JESUS ONE OF HIS COMPANIONS, AND JESUS WAS FLEW TO THE HEAVENS B Y ANGELS. AND CHRISTIANS SAY HE WAS CRUCIFIED THEN WHY DIDN'T JESUS SHOW HIMSELF IN THE RESURRECTION TO THE JEWS BUT ONLY SAID MY SIGNS ARE THE SAME AS SIGNS OF JONAH. WHY DID HE SAY THAT.
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