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Does God love men more than He does women? Or is it men who think they are
Does God love men more than He does women? Or is it men who think they are loved more?

[Genesis 19:5-8; NIV, (5) They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them." (6) Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him (7) and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing. (8) Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them. But don't do anything to these men, for they have come under the protection of my roof.]

In Genesis we see Lot offering his daughters. He would not allow the strangers to defile the men because that would be detestable to God, but his daughters were useless so go ahead and defile them. No it is not God's will, but the sinful will of men. The men were under the protection of Lot's roof, but his daughters were of no importance.

The Bible is filled with treatment of women that is not godly. This mistreatment was not by God but by men who put their value to God above that of a women's value.

Is your spiritual partner your physical partner for life? I have heard several people claim that the first person you have a physical relationship with is your spiritual partner for life chosen for you by God. That first person is the spouse chosen for you by God. This is not a new belief. It has been around for many years. In this situation, Lot's daughters would have then been married to these strangers for life, and it was God's will for them

Violent acts against women of any age are never God's will. Then also at what age is a girl a woman? Is she considered women from the moment of birth, so that a man can force himself on any female from birth and claim her as his wife until she dies? If that man is a relative, father, brother that certainly cannot be God's will. That would be God's will for her life, making her a meaningless unimportant property of some man.

Nowhere in God's word does it say man shall have many wives. That is a man law not a God law. God didn't order men to have many wives. The men choose to take many wives. All though the Bible speaks of divorce it is the man divorcing a woman, never a woman being allowed to divorce a husband. A remarried woman is committing adultery, but that term is never said of a man who marries more then once. No man was ever presented for stoning accused of adultery only women.
Yet Leviticus 20:10 says
ƒ¯If a man commits adultery with another man's wife-with the wife of his neighbor-BOTH the ADULTERER (man) and the ADULTERESS (women) must be put to death
Nowhere in God's word does it say that a man should pay for a wife. That is a man law not a God law. In biblical times, women were PROPERITY to be owned, that's why a man ƒ¯paid' for a wife. That was a man law, not God law.

God loves women with the same love as he does the men. God's laws were written to protect women, but many men distort and manipulate the scripture to their own advantage. In the beginning, there were only the 10 commandments. Laws had to be made to govern the activities of sinful human kind, because of the evil in the hearts of humans. God never changes but how he deals with His children does change.

Deuteronomy 22:25-29, NIV
(25) But if out in the country a man happens to meet a girl pledged to be married and rapes her, ONLY the man who has done this shall die.
(26) DO NOTHINGto the girl; she has committed no sin deserving death. This case is like that of someone who attacks and murders his neighbor,
(27) for the man found the girl out in the country, and though the betrothed girl screamed, there was no one to rescue her.
(28) If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered,
(29) he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.

Would anyone today tell a woman of any age that she would have to spend the rest of her life married to the man who raped her and that is was God's will? But that's what the Word says. The man then would have forced his will upon the women. If God never forces His will, why would He allow a human to force their will on someone? God never changes but how He deals with His children does.

Jesus was a leader, but He did not lead by force, He lead by serving. The two shall be as one, and then the husband and wife serve each other. God chooses our life partner when two people pray and ask for guidance. He will direct them lead them and bring them together after both have made a commitment to God first.

Women have in history had the will of human men forced upon them in the disguise of legalistic rules made by men not the laws of God. Many are caught in this quagmire of legalism claiming to know God's will and forcing that will upon others. This is especially true of men towards women.

God's laws in the 10 commandments are as important as they have always been.
The problem with the quagmire of legalism is that it does not allow God's grace or forgiveness to enter in. It most often deals only with the anger of God and not His love. It deals with condemnation not forgiveness. We now live under the law grace, not the law.

There is a difference between punishment and discipline. Discipline teaches right from wrong but punishment deals only with God's anger. God's discipline teaches, encourages and draws us closer to Him. We learn with discipline.

[Galatians 3:28-29, NIV,
There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male or female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.]

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Published: Mar 11 2008 10:57:35am

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Michael Scarim (@mikejs)

I agree with you about women should not be used. God told us in Genesis that woman is mans helper, not his slave. But I think you missed used the scripture with Lot. If you start reading at the begining of chapter 18, "The Lord appeared to Abraham near the great trees of Mamre while he was sitting at the entrance to his tent in the heat of the day. Abrahamlooked up and saw three men standing near by." I believe that the three men were the three persons of God. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. I also Believe Abraham and Lot new this. Lot was willing to sacrifice his daughters to save his Lord. God was doing nothing more than testing the heart of Lot. If Lot would have given the men over, not only would they be able to protect themselves, but Lot would not have been warned to leave. It's not that Lot didn't love His daughters, but he loved God more. Our love for God should come before anyone, including your wife/husband, kids, and any othere loved ones. Men and women are supposed to help each other, not control each other. Mike

Marsha Tyler Ronquist (@kraftykatz)

Why sacrifice daughter, why not his sons? No where in scripture does anyone one "see" God for He is to Holy. Thank you for your input. KraftyKatz drinking tea

Michael Scarim (@mikejs)

Do you see anywere in scripture that said Lot has sons. I'm not disagreeing with you. I agree with your blog 100%. The world is full of people who miss use women, in the church and outside it. When God said let us make man in our image, He meant men and women. Mike.

Marsha Tyler Ronquist (@kraftykatz)

No, I don't know if Lot had anymore children other then the ones mentioned in that part of scripture. Many times, the only children mentioned were the ones relevant to that story. I do think there were many more people living than just the ones mentioned in scripture. KraftyKatz drinking after dinner tea

Kelly Houpt (@frozenclover)

Hi KraftyKat, My 16 year old daughter was talking to me today, and we were discussing women and modesty in the bible. She then told me she wasnt sure if God loved women as much as men because of some of the things she's read in the bible, such as women were only made worthy by giving birth, etc. I dont have the exact verses on hand. I did some Googling to answer her question, and came across your blog. I was wondering whether you could give me some verses that would prove to her that God indeed loves women as much as men, and that just because women were often mistreated by men in the bible, that doesnt mean God intended that to happen. She is under the impression that God must have intended it or it would not have been included in the bible. I tried to explain things to her, but she doesnt seem to understand what I'm saying. Specific verses would be a great help if you have them. That's fine if you dont. Thanks for reading this!

Nukz Nai (@warriorprincess)

Hi there I guess this is a common question arising in the mind of many women and girls. Just a though to ponder. If God really did love men more. Then why is it that he creates us as women. Does he himself want to love one more than the other. I dont believe so. If God didnt love women then he would not have sent his son to earth in the womb of Mary. If God did not love women, than women like Esther and Ruth, would not be mentioned in the bible. God loves us very much. Though in a way his love for us may be different to that of how he loves a man. HE longs to protect us and cherish us. We are his daughters after all.

Phillip H Ruby (@philruby)

Genesis 5:1-2 "1 This is the book of the genealogy of Adam. In the day that God created man, He made him in the likeness of God. 2 He created them male and female, and blessed them and called them Mankind in the day they were created." God created mankind, not just man. He created THEM male and female for a single purpose. That purpose was to populate the procreate. That was His design. There may have been other reasons that He, in His infinite wisdom created man and woman with different physical, mental, and emotional characteristics, but I know of no scripture that points to any other reason. Science has proven that women and men have slightly different brains. Women have a higher density of cells in certain regions of the brain which aid in critical thinking. It would be totally ignorant to say that there are no differences between men and women. These differences have an earthly significance for living here in this world. I believe that when it comes to the eternal soul, there is no difference, male and female. The old testament is largely a history, and many of the things men did are not meant as instruction for us to copy their actions, but to show their wickedness. Mankind is wicked. Neither gender has a monopoly on this. Neither gender has a monopoly on God's love, nor on His wrath when we disobey Him. And neither gender has a monopoly on mistreatment of the opposite sex. It simply manifests itself in different ways most of the time. We should all be brothers and sisters in Christ. We should love one another, and treat one another with respect. That means neither "woman-bashing" nor "man-bashing" verbally or otherwise. When we put a blanket on an entire gender, or race, we ignore the fact that that blanket should cover all people. All have sinned and come short of the glory of God, and we all need redemption through Christ. Our (human) righteousness is as filthy rags, the Bible says. Let us look up to the One who is perfect and measure ourselves by Him, and not by man (nor woman). Men, love your wives. Women, love your husbands. Love is the greatest commandment: first for God and then for our neighbors. Blessings in Christ Phil

Marsha Tyler Ronquist (@kraftykatz)

I had to read what I had written a year ago to understand the comments. Phil I agree with all you said. Will I was reading what I had written before I can see where it appeared to be man-bashing, but that was not my intent. I was trying to convey what you said, God created them in His image. It is the humanness of some men that reduces women to a lesser importance in a vein attempt to lift themselves higher up and closer to God. KraftyKatz

Phillip H Ruby (@philruby)

Oh, KK, I knew that "man-bashing" was not your intent. My comment was from general observation of how many people use gender, on both sides, as a reason to belittle or think less of someone. It's sad. By the way...when I see a blog pop up on the "recent activity" list, I should check the original date, huh? haha Blessings Phil

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