Taking a stroll on the quiet side...

After feeling so stressed yesterday, I took a look a the quiet side. At my usual hideout at the bookstore at Barnes and Noble. This is not a commercial but with a due credit its a nice place to relax and pick up a book. I was sitting between the stack of christian books of all sorts and the self help books of all sorts. I couldn't examine one more christian book so I took out a self help book. I was a good book I picked. I was about sensible eating habits and it took my interest because I'm one given to appetite. The book explored the natural hunger and appetite and the spiritual hunger and appetite of the soul and mind. What is it that we are really hungry for? It went into Zen and Buddist principles which were very sensible and worthy of consideration. One comment here is that the bible is not an all out bow and arrow against things that work or those who propone them. The book outlined principles that food is a communion of thanksgiving to God and just a vehicle to stop hunger for food. Well God always told us that. That man shall not live by bread alone but by the WAY God proposes for self-fulfill-ment. Like I said so thing man discover throught meditation and observation are thing that God has set in motion to work, like our mouths to eat, a mind to meditate, and a courteous thankyou note that makes you feel appreciated. The bible is not to unravel all the Zens that work but to bring them to us. It's just that our spiritual parent put in a book he authorizes and stand behind by. All people of all nations love their children, and hopeful their wives and husbands and mothers and fathers. God is not against green tea or Kimono apparel or channel from Paris. God want to continue the party. He has a plan for eternal life and that's something miracle worker God can do. And he wants all Zen people and Buddist Monks and South Australia Pigmies to join the life boat that can send us into all the good things you know and much more. A total glorious life where everything is possible because promises that you will not regret to put your trust on him. May you be blessed. Amen. thbg

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Rob Henson @greybear ·

As I read this i have to admit I was struggling to keep focused... .so if I am way off, forgive me up front. A couple of thing did catch my eye:

[quote]I couldn't examine one more christian book so I took out a self help book.[/quote]
I guess I have always considered the Bible the best help book simply because it gets "self" out of the way.

[quote]I was a good book I picked. . . .It went into Zen and Buddist principles which were very sensible and worthy of consideration. One comment here is that the bible is not an all out bow and arrow against things that work or those who propone them.[/quote]
I'm not sure what you meant here, it looks like you were considering the principles of Buddhism as something to mix into the Christian faith principles and stating that the Bible can't be used against Zen/Buddhist principles. I sure hope I misinterpreted that one because otherwise it sounds like you just slapped God in the face by saying his Word isn't good enough or strong enough and we need at least some Zen/Buddhist mixed in our Faith.

[quote]The bible is not to unravel all the Zens that work but to bring them to us.[/quote]
The best I can do here is to say that the purpose of God's Word is never to "unravel the Zen's" or to draw any type of Zen to us, but to reveal to us who he is and who we are in him.

[quote]And he wants all Zen people and Buddist Monks and South Australia Pigmies to join the life boat that can send us into all the good things you know and much more. [/quote]
I agree here, he does want all men to be drawn to him, to repentance of sin, to acceptance of his son Jesus Christ as their personal Saviour, and to desire a stronger, closer relationship with him as their one and only God and father. But he does not desire us to compromise the Gospel by mixing in principles of the Buddhist religion.

Blessings,
PapaBear

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Francisco J Zubia @tohimbeglory ·

This blog is not to get away from the bible but to put it forward into those who need it the most. I said in the blog quote:

[It went into Zen and Buddist principles which were very sensible and worthy of consideration. One comment here is that the bible is not an all out bow and arrow against things that work or those who propone them]

...principles which were sensible and worthy of consideration...

We are in no manner of way to shrug off the counsel of God in everything we accept as good and proper. But I do mean that we should not hit others 'outside' when they are doing something right, even in Gods' perspective, even thought it seem that they don't believe or never heard of Christ or the Bible. I hope we can agree on this. May you be blessed. Amen.

ps. Jesus said that if you love only those that love you back, even common sinners do the same...Love those that misunderstand you...

thbg

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Rob Henson @greybear ·

I want to make the point that we don't want to pollute the Gospel...yes I this quite times of meditation or God's word IS good, but adding meditation in the for Zen/Buddhist do so I would not say is in any way bringing Glory to God. (Typically this is an emptying of the mind and not a filling of it with God word.)

Adding a pellet of rabbit poo to a good batch of brownies does not make the brownies good anymore!

Blessings,
PapaBear

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Francisco J Zubia @tohimbeglory ·

I must remind you of the principles and guidelines of this intitution that we are not in the business of looking down any denomination of sect belief. I'm sure if you review the guidelines that you will find that the goal of this site is to make it pallatabel to those inside and those from every nation and belief. One of the triumphs of this site is that any one can come in from anywhere, read our blogs, be family safe and find their dignity safe.

I have no desire, then to follow the guidelines which have a lot of wisdom.

ps. Jesus said my house shall be a house of prayer for all nations.

thbg

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Rob Henson @greybear ·

Trust me my dear brother, I am well aware of the Policies of the site, I review them on regular basis...this is a Christian site, not a New age Blend site...keep this in mind....be sure you have read the agreement to actually join this site....thanks - PapaBear

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John B. Abela @abelajohnb ·

Hello Everybody,

I just want to step in here and clarify something.

[quote=tohimbeglory]I'm sure if you review the guidelines that you will find that the goal of this site is to make it pallatabel to those inside and those from every nation and belief.[/quote]

Policy enforcement is a major thing to me. So allow me to expand on our policies and bring clarification to this matter.

The ChristianBlog.Com "Content Policy" states:

[quote]denominational abuse... is... "those of one religious sect attacking, being rude toward, threatening, or repeatedly challenging those of another religious sect".[/quote]

It than goes on to highlight a few examples:

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What I would like to point out here is that ChristianBlog.Com is a CHRISTIAN website.

Mahāyāna Buddhism i[/i] is NOT a Christian faith.

ChristianBlog.Com is not open to Chán or Merton or Suzuki or even Christian mysticism.

While we do not allow sectarianism to run rampant, that does not mean we are not going to allow those of the Christian faith to openly challenge opposing view points of the Christian faith, believes, and the core doctrines of Christianity.

We are, of course, going to put a stop to things when people cross the line of posting views of the Christian faith to blatant abuse of other faiths.

However, I see NO WHERE in GreyBear stating "[i]adding meditation in the for Zen/Buddhist do so I would not say is in any way bringing Glory to God[/i]" is an abuse of Mahāyāna Buddhism. In fact, a true follower of the faith would whole heartily agree with Greybear in what he has said. I have spent nearly ten years in Religious Studies, a number of them teaching it. I believe Alan Watts said it best when he said that Mahāyāna Buddhism is a "[i]mystical transformation of consciousness[/i]". Last I read my Holy Text there was nothing in there that indicated the Christian faith involves a "[i]mystical transformation of consciousness[/i]". So, I am with Greybear in him challenging the Biblicalness of what he stated to try to bring clarification of what IS Biblical Truth.

p.s.: Francisco J Zubia (@tohimbeglory), believe greybear when he says he KNOWS the policies of ChristianBlog.Com... he helped us write a good majority of them... so I'm pretty sure he clearly understands them. :wink:

Thanks,
John B. Abela

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Francisco J Zubia @tohimbeglory ·

Thank you for stepping in and making things clear as far as posting guidelines. Surely we don't want to quarrel for things that don't work for peace. I just wanted to quiet the waters here to a further level so we could catch those rare birds that only come to drink when the pond is totally still and peaceful. These people worship the peace of the self and tranquility of mind. I just thought I could lure them into our pen and catch them for Christ.

Thank for making everything clear. May God have all the praise and all the glory. Amen.

thbg

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